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January 31Edit


Hello, I have just created a page on Chrysostomos Dimitriou, who was, among other bishop positions, Archbishop of Zakynthos during WW2, and a page called "Chrysostomos of Zakynthos" exists, but redirects to "Rescue of the Jews of Zakynthos" . Can someone teach me how to have it forwarded to "Chrysostomos Dimitriou" instead? (Knowing that the article in question has a link to "Rescue of the Jews of Zakynthos" already) AgisdeSparte (talk) 00:02, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

AgisdeSparte Click on Chrysostomos of Zakynthos, which opens Rescue of the Jews of Zakynthos
The article will say (Redirected from Chrysostomos of Zakynthos) at the top: click on that link.
You will then open the redirect and be able to edit it. TSventon (talk) 00:10, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
Thank you ! @TSventon AgisdeSparte (talk) 00:11, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

provincial-level cities vs province-level citiesEdit

Hello, everyone. I am weak in English. For instance, List of provincial-level governors in South Korea and List of province-level administrative divisions of Vietnam with Hán-Nôm characters. Which is right? Thank you. Sawol (talk) 05:30, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Hello, Sawol. English is my first language and provincial-level sounds best to me. That's what most online sources use, including UNESCO. Cullen328 (talk) 19:11, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Copyright and draftsEdit

I am not very good English speaker. I cannot copy paste content from sources. But also cannot change the meaning.

In what English, was I supposed to write from this source? The source says, eunuchs (Hijra (South Asia))extort money from train passengers.

Then another editor TrangaBellam comes and says, I should be topic-banned for writing that line. I can see that there is lots of anger in what he/she wrote. And also moved another article which nobody else said should be drafted. I think targeting the second article was done to harass me.

If my grammar is not perfect, then I did not prevent anybody to edit that articlres, and I have seen other editor's who tried to improve the article not threaten with anger.

I think drafts are places where, you can write, edit, modify before publishing articles. Does lines written in drafts, are taken so seriously? Rambo XTerminator (talk) 07:49, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

  Courtesy link: Draft:Extortion by eunuchs in India   Maproom (talk) 08:20, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
It's currently the opening sentence of the draft, and it surprised me when I first read the draft (and before I read that comment about it). I'd never encountered the word hijra until a few minutes ago, and of course Wikipedia is not a reliable source, but the article Hijra (South Asia) says that hijra "are eunuchs, intersex people, or transgender people who live in communities that follow a kinship system known as guru-chela system". It does not say that they are extortionists. Meanwhile (and perhaps just because you made a slip in English), the draft says that they are extortionists. Are they all (or even mostly) extortionists? If you want to say this, you're going to have to present very compelling evidence for doing so. I'll err on the side of caution, assume that most are not extortionists, and make an interim edit accordingly. -- Hoary (talk) 09:26, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
@Rambo XTerminator: It is extremely easy to patch together multiple news stories about group X and make it seem that X is a badly-behaving group - here is a well-written essay that makes the point by writing a well-sourced scare story about cardiologists. That sort of writing, where the writer takes individual sources to patch together a narrative that none of the sources make (the most glaring example is the section "deaths") is known on Wikipedia as synthesis and is not allowed. You need a reliable source that would specifically link hijras to organized crime (if I had to guess, it is likely to be some group of hijras in some area of India rather than a subcontinent-wide issue).
Another issue is that the draft mixes many different things:
  • incidents of aggressive panhandling on the Indian railways (and that itself may be a rather mixed bag going from "someone asked for money loud enough that I could not read a book" to "he pulled a knife on me")
  • an organized protection racket in Bathinda, by hijras
  • another protection racket in Hyderabad, against hijras
  • protests by "real hijras" against "fake hijras" (which is not extortion by any reasonable definition of the term)
TigraanClick here for my talk page ("private" contact) 13:26, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Very dubious reference, with pseudoscience in first sentenceEdit

I'm very concerned by this, but I don't want to just delete the sentence. Proper steps to take?

Have a look at reference no. 14 from the Desalination article. From the outset it has a grammar mistake in the body, and it's hosted on MDPI, a controversial publisher.

But click through and read the abstract and keywords. Barely in the first sentence we get a reference to an unscientific concept. Then reading the article, it turns out the claim laid in the reference, is entirely about this nonexistent substance (see figure 1). At least the organization running the conference it's in the proceedings of appears to exist. (talk) 09:17, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Yup. Looks like woo. Or at minimum, a single primary source being cited for an extremely dubious claim. I've removed the paragraph. AndyTheGrump (talk) 09:30, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
Grr, Andy beat me to it whilst I was checking it out! Total agreement. Thanks for bringing this to our attention "", have you ever thought of setting up an account? WP needs good constructive editors. Regards, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 09:43, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
Thanks! And yes, I do some edits now and then, and every time I do I remember I should make a proper account. (talk) 10:05, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
Account made! Again thanks for the help and I'll be back here if I need any more assistance NotAnAstronaut (talk) 10:12, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
Welcome! And you're always free to ask if you need help, thanks for your contributions thusfar! BhamBoi (talk) 17:56, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Hungarian WikipediaEdit

Added section header Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:53, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

[[کس ]] — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:47, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

In the Hungarian Wikipedia, 2-3 administrators are systematically suppressing and deleting articles about the Hungarian Libertarian Party (, ignoring objectivity and doing so solely based on personal offense and/or the media's circulating prejudices. Despite the party having Facebook pages with 11,000 and 20,000 followers ( and videos that are viewed by many people. They held two protests, one of which was reported by numerous media outlets on January 31, 2021, and the organizers received hefty fines. A video of their other protest, held on August 20, 2022, was watched by more than 1 million people, and one of the party's leaders, Szilárd Ecsenyi, was also fined. His twin brother, the party's founder, Áron Ecsenyi, has been a topic of the media several times, had a public debate with public figures, and currently has 11,000 followers on TikTok. Although the Hungarian Wikipedia claims to have no central leadership, it is openly known that no one dared to disagree with Peter Gervai, even though it was revealed several times that he had no idea about libertarianism and considered the party a joke because of its name, and he is not charged with political impartiality, which has been revealed in several debates on the so-called tavern wall, where one can beg to restore an article if he feels like it. The reality is that if he deletes something, nobody dares to restore it or question his authority. That is why I see the only solution to report this to the American side, that political impartiality is not met in Hungary at all. Peter Gervai has permanently banned all Wikipedia editors who had anything to do with the constant restoration of the party's article over the past 2 years, obviously doing so in the heat of the battle, and he no longer maintains the appearance of objectivity, and he cites that many people insulted his personality during the already poisoned debate. If this is true, it should not have anything to do with an encyclopedia dedicating an article to a clearly notable party or not. Please take this matter into consideration and take appropriate action.

Ecsenyi Szilárd (talk) 12:12, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

We at the English Wikipedia cannot take action regarding the Hungarian Wikipedia. Any complaints you have should be made there. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:24, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
When Wikipedia was started, the American founders invited the first non-American admins. Since I have exhausted all legal remedies in Hungary, and Péter Gervai literally banned me and my party members from the Hungarian Wikipedia, I would see it as expedient for his American colleagues to make a scandal. That alone would convince the local petty king that his behavior reflects very poorly on the encyclopedia's reputation. Ecsenyi Szilárd (talk) 15:43, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
@Ecsenyi Szilárd: Each language Wikipedia is a separate and independent project of the Wikimedia foundation (WMF). You can attempt to contact WMF about this: WMF is not the English Wikipedia. We volunteers here at en.Wikipedia have no say in how our sister projects operate. We at the help desk have no charter and no interest in off-wiki issues: we are here to help you and others use and edit the English Wikipedia. -Arch dude (talk) 15:55, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
@Ecsenyi Szilárd: the next place up the chain of command if you have a complaint about a specific admin that is not being dealt with by the normal dispute resolution process on your local Wikipedia is to contact your local Wikipedia's Arbitration Committee, which I believe is This at hu.wikipedia. As noted, literally no one at English Wikipedia can help you; every individual language Wikipedia runs its own affairs. If you have greater concerns that are not being addressed at your language Wikipedia, and after you have tried resolution via your local ArbCom, the next option is to contact the WMF directly; though they tend to take a hands-off approach towards meddling in the local affairs of each Wikipedia. --Jayron32 17:48, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for your help Ecsenyi Szilárd (talk) 09:52, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

New Layout ...Edit

I'm a HUGE Wikipedia fan ... and one of these days when I am able I promise to make a nice contribution to help keep you going. My first and only comment is that I like the new layout. I believe a nice addition to it would be to have your logo at the conclusion of the articles (or somewhere) with a link back to the homepage. It's an unnecessary scroll back to the copy and yet another click to get back there now when one if finished reading the article. Anywho ... great job. My name is Lee Cooke. Thanks for listening ... 2600:6C5E:2900:576:1559:462A:EB9E:7606 (talk) 16:15, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment. On my PC, the article contents are now in a "sticky" column on the left of the browser window and there is always a "Top" link in view. So clicking that jumps right up to the top of the article, only one more click away from the Mainpage (and bringing other useful menu links into view). I guess you are using a mobile view, so the menus will be different. You can make suggestions at WP:Village pump (proposals) Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:33, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Editing O.R. Melling Page (mine)Edit

Tried to register under O.R. Melling, my more known pen-name, but was unable. Registered with new pen-name I will be using for my entry into literary non-fiction. I've read online it's against Wiki etiquette to edit your own page. Mine has been up since B.C.E. & is slim pickings. I managed at least to add new publications some years ago. The more famous writers I know, whose entire lives are on their pages, simply paid someone to do it. Sad tale: I'm an aging writer & artist living on an old folk's pension. I can't afford to hire any of the Wiki edit services offered online. Ah, it's an unfair world. (And I contribute €20 to Wiki every year since I use it a lot.) I would, of course, provide media & online citations to prove what I would like to add. Would appreciate any advice from you young ones. Val Decraney aka O.R. Melling Val Decraney (talk) 17:48, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

  Courtesy link: O. R. Melling - (talk) 17:56, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
Hello, Val, and welcome. First, please, please, please don't pay any money to anybody to edit Wikipedia. If they are honest, they will tell you that they must declare their status as a paid contributor, and that they cannot guarantee any particular result for you. (If the people that other writers hired did not declare their status, then they were violating Wikipedia's terms of use).
I suggest you read WP:AUTOPROB. Then you can make edit requests on the talk page Talk:O. R. Melling, preferably with citation to sources that are independent of you. Remember that a Wikipedia page about you should be based on what other people, wholly unconnected with you, have published about you in reliable sources - something that the article currently lacks entirely. If you have some such sources - reviews of your work, published in reliable places, or studies in books from reputable publishers (especially if these contain anything about you as opposed to your work) this will assist editors in improving the article from its current dire state. What the article should not be is promotional in any way. ColinFine (talk) 18:01, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
Actually, the real professional writers I know don't come anywhere near the "services" who claim to make the articles about them more to their liking, because they know that most of those operations are either merely shady or actively in violation of our Terms and Conditions. Chip Delany doesn't pay anybody to update the article about him; nor do Jodi Piccoult or James Patterson or Noam Chomsky. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:20, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
@Val Decraney: As a separate issue, please do not feel obligated to donate to Wikipedia (actually, to WMF) even though you use it a lot. We have lots and lots of money and do not need a piece of your pension. What we do need and that you may wish to contribute is some expertise and some time. Pick articles in areas you know about and improve them (include references), or (since you are a writer) pick articles that are in need of copyediting. -Arch dude (talk) 18:34, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
@Val Decraney: The account User:O.R. Melling was created 1 April 2018. If it's you then the old password will still work but you cannot get a new password because the account has not stored an email address. The account has no edits so you can probably usurp if with a request. See Wikipedia:Changing username/Usurpations. If you are fine with your current username then just keep it. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:22, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
THANK YOU EVERYONE for your replies and advice. I hope you don't mind that I'm responding this way rather than individually. As recommended, I will collect what I wish to have posted and provide sources, citations etc for same. Meanwhile I'm honestly happy to contribute a small amount to wiki annually in gratitude for such a major free resource tool that doesn't inflict me with ads (unlike the otherwise brilliant et al). It's also easier for me than contributing time which I seem to have less and less of these days. Not ready to retire yet! Best wishes to all. I'll be back with a load of data in coming days. PS But am I jinxed? Wiki login refusing both my password & now temporary password sent for reset. So this can only be posted via IP address Val aka O.R. (talk) 14:36, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

What is accountingEdit

What is accounting — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:36, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

See accounting. -Arch dude (talk) 22:44, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

February 1Edit

Is a TOC with columns possible?Edit

Hello from el and en.wiktionary. Asking for help here at en.WP, sorry to bother you with external subject. I was wondering, if some kind of template for Table of Contents is possible, quasi _ _TOC__ but with breaks at Level2 to create columns? Our contents at dictionaries are usually for 3 or 4 lanugages with short, repetitive section-titles. It would be lovely to have a template with new_col=... and/or new_row=... something like... (compare at wikt:en:σκληρός, how it would look it looks different here)

Would readers of wikipedias like it too? Thank you very much, Sarri.greek (talk) 03:35, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Corporate Logo ImagesEdit

Hi all, and thanks in advance for your help. I've been asked by a mid sized international company to create a wiki page for them and I can see in advance and from previous experience that uploading their corporate logo to use on their page is going to cause me headaches. Can someone please tell me what's needed to ensure this doesn't get taken down for copyright violation? I'm sure that if necessary I can get something from them stating I have the right to use the image, but what would be the best process.

Thanks again! Curtcaster (talk) 04:50, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

@Curtcaster: Please see Wikipedia:Logos. If we needed their permission, then we would not use the logo. Either they licence it CC-BY-SA (highly unlikely), or it has no copyrightable creative elements, or we use it without their permission under our extremely conservative interpretation of the "fair use" doctrine. This third option is the most likely to apply here. -Arch dude (talk) 05:35, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
(edit conflict) @Curtcaster: Hi there! Thank you for declaring your COI on your user page. If User:Curtcaster/sandbox ever becomes an article, then you can use Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard to upload the Kilburn Live logo under fair use. GoingBatty (talk) 05:36, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
@Curtcaster: Before doing any other work on this, make sure you can demonstrate that the company is notable as we define the term: see WP:NCORP. Most mid-sized companies are not notable, and there is very little that you can do to affect a company's notability. See WP:AMOUNT. If the company is not notable we will decline to accept your article, so you probably want to make sure the company knows that. -Arch dude (talk) 05:45, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
Just going to add that Wikipedia notability has nothing to do with images. So, perhaps it's best to not start worrying about uploading files until after whatever article your trying to create has actually been created. Non-free images, in particular. can only be used in the article namespace; so, uploading one now and adding it to your sandbox will just result in it being removed and most likely deleted. Focus on ensuring that the draft article you're trying to create is clearly notable per WP:NCORP that it will be accepted when you submit it for review. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:16, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
Curtcaster, with one exception you have made NONE of the mandatory disclosures on paid editing. Continued failure to disclose is likely to lead to a block or ban on you and your account(s). --Orange Mike | Talk 19:20, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

new sellerEdit

how to register as a seller and my products (talk) 11:14, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

This isn't a database of sellers where products are offered for sale, sorry. 331dot (talk) 11:16, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
This isn't an advertising website. It is an encyclopedia. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:16, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

I made anent to a profile that wasn't updated by wikipedia why?Edit

I just made an edit to a profile and it wasn't updated I would like to know why Nassim ismaila (talk) 12:21, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

  Courtesy link: Nafisat Abdullahi.   Nassim ismaila, Wikipedia doesn't have profiles. It has articles, which are written by people independent of the subject, and based on published sources independent of the subject. Your edits were reverted because you didn't provide reliable independent published sources for them. Maproom (talk) 12:29, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Restore a draftEdit

Hi, how can I restore a deleted draft? It's been a while and the person handled it is no longer available. Thank you,Raves2023 (talk) 12:57, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:01, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
@Raves2023 It would help if you let us know the name of the draft. As David Biddulph said, Requests for undeletion is the appropriate place to make such a request, but they will need the name of the draft as well. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 14:07, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Updating page nameEdit


I am updating our page for New England Bible College. The institution has changed its name to New England Bible College and Seminary. It has updated on the side panel, but the main title and url remains the same. Can you help?

New England Bible College

--Molly Sparling

NEBCS Chairman MSparling (talk) 15:52, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi MSparling, the best way to do this is to start a Requested Move (RM) discussion. The instructions at WP:RSPM will walk you through how to set this up. ModernDayTrilobite (talkcontribs) 15:59, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
Thank you! MSparling (talk) 16:00, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
Hello, Molly. If you are the chair of the institution, then you are a Paid editor. You must formally declare that status, preferably on your user page (see the link for how), and you should not directly edit the article New England Bible College and Seminary, but should instead make edit requests on its talk page. I also advise you to read WP:COI and WP:OWN.
I see also that the article is essentially devoid of independent sources, and is liable to get deleted unless somebody adds suitable sources to establish that it meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability. ColinFine (talk) 16:40, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
Thank you for this information! What if it is an unpaid position? Am I still considered a paid editor? And yes, I did notice that and am looking for sources outside of our own website to validate the content. Thanks again- I am new to editing wiki! MSparling (talk) 16:53, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
Even if it is an unpaid position, it is assumed you benefit in some way (reputation, credentials, politically, socially, etc.), from being on the board and the university having a good reputation. By our definition of a paid editor, "Payment or compensation: includes, but is not limited to, money, goods or services." Since it is not limited to money or tangible objects, the non-financial, non-material benefit received from being on the board is considered payment or complensation for the purposes of our terms of use. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 17:03, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
Thank you for the helpful clarification. Happy to abide by the policies! MSparling (talk) 17:28, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
When you have made the declarations, make sure you read Golden Rule to understand what we require in a source. The Sun Journal piece is presumably a reliable source, but it fails both independence (because it obviously comes from a press release) and significant coverage (since it has only a short paragraph about the college). Non-independent sources may be used to support certain kinds of information in an article, but they do not contribute to notability. ColinFine (talk) 19:00, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
Thank you! MSparling (talk) 19:22, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Something in the code has shifted the notes and references for the article to the side of the table, instead of at the bottom, and I cant figure it out. Anyone else find it? Nswix (talk) 16:32, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

They're below when I look at it. I'm using the old Vector skin so have the full width of the screen usable, are you using the new squeezed one? Martin of Sheffield (talk) 16:47, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
No, it was that the table wasn't properly closed, but Trappist the monk appears to have fixed it. ColinFine (talk) 17:00, 1 February 2023 (UTC)


Hi there, I edited and created a page for an artist. However it is now in EverybodyWiki and not on Wikipedia. How can I move it please? ElleltaLove (talk) 16:58, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

@ElleltaLove It would help if you give us the name of the page. Is it Draft:Lidiaana by any chance? ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 17:04, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
Yes, it's Draft:Lidiaana . Thank you ElleltaLove (talk) 17:10, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
Wikipedia has absolutely no connection with EverybodyWiki. If your article was on Wikipedia and is no longer, then it must have got deleted - but I see that EverybodyWiki grabs articles undergoing deletion from Wikipedia, so that is plausible.
If you tell us what the article was called, we can look and see why it was deleted: it is likely that it was felt to be unsalvageable, and (at best) would need to be started again from scratch; but we can't tell without knowing the title. ColinFine (talk) 17:06, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
Hi there, I created Draft:Lidiaana and It got reviewed twice and I thought it would go straight to Wikipedia. I haven't seen it published on wikipedia though. When I looked it up on google, I noticed it was on EverybodyWiki. (New user) Thanks ElleltaLove (talk) 17:12, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
@ElleltaLove, it was reviewed and declined twice. You haven't resubmitted it, so for the moment, it's just sitting in draft space, waiting for improvement and resubmittal. (talk) 17:27, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
oh! thank you so much. I just resubmitted it. ElleltaLove (talk) 17:39, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
I'm afraid I declined it because it is not remotely clear how they pass WP:NSINGER? Theroadislong (talk) 17:50, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
Hi there, thank you. I added a discography. What else needs to be added? Everything else I had found weren't acceptable articles. Thank you for your help (new user) ElleltaLove (talk) 18:00, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
@ElleltaLove, a discography is not what's needed here. Have you read WP:NSINGER? Which of the criteria does this person meet? It may be that they're just not notable enough for a Wikipedia article (yet). (talk) 18:08, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
Thank you. I understand now and will add what is necessary. Thank you for your help ElleltaLove (talk) 18:12, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Separating One Entity That Should Be TwoEdit should be two different websites, and are two distinct domains, even on WikiData. Additionally, and as noted by Insider, Inc. they have several domains/subdomains that should warrant having multiple pages.

Is there a way to separate this to help ensure that the information is correct? Ronin.abv (talk) 17:47, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Have you got suitable sources that establish that is notable independently of There are many examples of subsidiary companies that are not notable independent of their parent, and some that are notable. Simply existing as a separate entity is not enough to ground a separate Wikipedia article.
In any case, I suggest opening the discussion on Talk:Business Insider - and you, should study the arguments in Talk:Business Insider#Requested move 18 April 2022. ColinFine (talk) 18:53, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
Thank you for this! As far as my research goes, it can be clearly noted that while the two are related they cover different content; with one being focused on "business" content, and the other on more "lifestyle" content.
I'll take a look at those links. Thank you again! Ronin.abv (talk) 16:32, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
@Ronin.abv: There are already two articles: Insider Inc. (for and Business Insider for (
Insider used to be a separate unrelated article, but then it was deleted. Today I see that Insider was recreated as a redirect to Business Insider. I've changed Insider from a redirect to a disambiguation page with these items:
  • Business Insider, a multinational financial and business news website now knows as Insider
  • Insider, Inc., an online media company known for publishing Insider (formerly Business Insider) and other media websites
Hope this helps! GoingBatty (talk) 20:03, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
Thank you for this! Yeah, the two our notably different entities that cover different content, with "Inc." being the overall brand - so I just wanted to make sure the information was represented correctly. Ronin.abv (talk) 16:30, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Entry [Ian Jordaan]Edit

he following appears at the beginning of the article:

This article has multiple issues. Please help improve it or discuss these issues on the talk page. (Learn how and when to remove these template messages) This article reads like a press release or a news article and may be largely based on routine coverage. (February 2016) This biographical article is written like a résumé. (February 2016) The neutrality of this article is disputed. (March 2017)

Attempts over many years have been made to correct these items but the statement on "issues" remains unchanged. The comment on neutrality is very odd, it has been attempted to remove all claims but the statement stays in place.

It would be preferable to remove the entry entirely rather than continue with the impossibility of removing the statement on "multiple issues". (talk) 19:12, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

  Courtesy link: Ian Jordaan - (talk) 19:18, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
NO real efforts have been made to address these issues. The assertions of notability and innovation must be sourced to impartial reliable published sources, not personal websites and online CVs. This is not optional, particularly in the case of a biography of a living person. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:24, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
But the assertions of discovery were removed some time ago. They had been made by a third party but no changes made have been "noticed" by wiki, nor by this commentor. (talk) 13:49, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
Furthermore, the original assertion was made by the reviewer for a major award (Leipholz Medal). I guess their "neutrality" has to be questioned. But the statement that the problem had been "solved" has been removed. (talk) 18:11, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
The whole stretch of "He continued his work on ice-structure interaction, with particular focus on challenges to oil and gas development in the Canadian offshore.

Jordaan has made contributions to industry by providing advice on design issues and research approaches on a broad variety of offshore and Arctic projects. He led design loads studies for the Terra Nova and White Rose Floating Production, Storage and Offloading Systems (FPSOs), as well as the Hebron project. He also studied and assessed the pressures measured on the Molikpaq structure in the Beaufort Sea during 1986.

Jordaan was a principal consultant for Ice Engineering with C-CORE, a Canadian research and development company specializing in harsh environment technology innovation. He developed methods of analysis for the ice loads on structures in the shallow Caspian Sea and consulted on structural concepts for the Shtokman gas project in the deepwater Barents Sea. He also worked with the C-CORE Ice Engineering team on design loads for the Confederation Bridge 13-kilometre-long (8.1 mi) connecting Prince Edward Island and New Brunswick." is completely unsourced. Words like "contributions" and "developed" seem calculated to fluff him up. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:01, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Unfortuantely, the biggest issue with the article on Ian Jordaan is not one that was flagged (although it is now), and it's the lack of robust sourcing. I did find one a pretty long article about him in Marine Technology Reporter from 2016. Unfortunately, it's an interview with him so it doesn't contribute to notability as it is not independant, however it is an improvement on the sourcing that was there. I wonder if the IP is Mr. Jordaan or is in some way associated with him? ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 17:27, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
Certainly, I am in touch with Mr Jordaan. He has just completed a new book and wanted to tidy up the very messy Wikipedia entry that exists.
It is good to be in contact with someone, who can hopefully assist in this effort. (talk) 18:35, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
You say you are "in touch" with him and that he wanted to "tidy up" the Wikipedia entry. Are you being paid for your efforts on his behalf? ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 21:44, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
No "fluffing up" is needed for this person. There is the final report on the design loads for ice loading on the Confederation Bridge and the paper in Can. J. Civ. Eng. 28:562-573, 2001. He is co-author of both, and major contributor.
There are also technical papers on the Caspian Sea, explaining the development of methods for design (several papers). He has co-authorship and senior authorship on several papers on this subject. (talk) 18:28, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
The Pratley Award was for work on the Confederation Bridge... (talk) 18:59, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
It was hoped that, by making this contact, some of the problems could be resolved, and we see that two new "issues" have been added. New citations are needed.
Can you assist in resolving the issues? (talk) 20:16, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
Can you assist in locating sources that are about Mr. Jordaan, but were created independantly of him? In other words, where people have written about him, but are not (as the article I located earlier) simply interviews of him, and are not written or produced by him or his employers? ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 21:43, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Adding a parameter in infoboxEdit

Is there a particular place where one can ask for the addition of an important parameter within template:infobox film? I've asked on the talk page but I'm not sure there's going to be much response seeing the history of the talk page. ShahidTalk2me 20:24, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

@Shshshsh Hi there! I was going to suggest Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film, but see that Template talk:Infobox film#"Music" field in infobox for a musical film is already pointing there. GoingBatty (talk) 20:39, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

war crimes allegation not supported by citationEdit

hopefully i am in the correct place for this question. is it appropriate for a biography of a deceased person to contain an accusation that they are a "war criminal" in the lead section, when the person has been neither tried nor convicted of any war crime? Mikhail Tolstykh contains such an accusation despite never being tried nor convicted of a crime, and the citation does not claim that he is a war criminal, and no other source except Wikipedia repeats this claim. i did post an edit request on the talk page, but my request was denied possibly because i cited the incorrect Wikipedia acronym, but i cant find the correct policy and theres just so many. would someone please have a look at my edit request and re-assess it? if im in the wrong venue, hopefully someone could point me in the correct direction. .usarnamechoice (talk) 22:38, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

  Not done What part of "Givi and other warlords who have been killed in the past two years have publicly assaulted prisoners of war and been engaged in what can be classified as war crimes" in the article's sources did you not read? --Orange Mike | Talk 00:39, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
@.usarnamechoice: Your edit request wasn't really declined because of the short-cut (i.e. acronymn) you used, but rather because the policy you were tyring to use as justification no longer applies to the subject of the article. WP:BLP applies to content about living persons or recently deceased persons, but it doesn't really apply to persons who have been dead for more than a few months. The policy could be applicable if it had to do with content about living persons mentioned in the article about Tolstykh, but not about Tolstykh himself. Moreover, as Orange Mike posted above, the sourced cited in support of the "war criminal" claim does seem to state as much. Apparently, Tolstykh was killed before formal charges were made. You could try and argue that the article content should be "accused war criminal" or something similar since he never was formally tried and convicted of any war crime per se, and the place to do would be first on the article's talk page and then maybe at WP:NPOVN. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:52, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
thank you for the pointer @Marchjuly:. the text as it currently appears on Wikipedia is false. "war criminal" is an extraordinary claim that is not backed up by an extraordinary source, much less widely covered in reliable sources. Wikipedia is the only site making this claim ("war criminal"). this source claims that he and others "engaged in what can be classified as war crimes", which is a different claim than "war criminal". it seems to me that Wikipedia/Wikipedians would want to fix any misinformation found within Wikipedia articles but i admit i dont know enough about Wikipedia policies to state that i am sure of that. i will watch for any replies on the article talkpage and if the false information persists, i will try WP:NPOVN. thank you. :) .usarnamechoice (talk) 02:06, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
What's extraordinary about "a separatist warlord was a war criminal" backed up by press reports? --Orange Mike | Talk 02:14, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
i see no press reports claiming this individual was convicted of any war crime. the claim that this person was a war criminal is false, and it is extraordinary (to me) that there is no desire to correct it. :^) .usarnamechoice (talk) 02:27, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
Your extremely restrictive definition of "needs to be convicted in a court of law" excludes the following people: well as many others. It does not seem reasonable. TigraanClick here for my talk page ("private" contact) 10:31, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
On that tight definition, even Adolf Hitler avoids the term! Martin of Sheffield (talk) 10:36, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
Well, the thought crossed my mind, but I decided against listing him. The only thing I can think of that is (1) definitely a war crime and (2) was taken on Hitler’s specific orders (or at least knowledge and tacit approval) is Nacht und Nebel (applied to PoW). The Holocaust, as horrible as it was, fails (1); many Wehrmacht crimes fail (2). TigraanClick here for my talk page ("private" contact) 16:03, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
Well we're getting a bit off topic, but consider German atrocities committed against Soviet prisoners of war for example. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 16:14, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
thank you, i see how the accusation is handled on two of those pages (Beria's page does not contain the string "war c") and i will put in an edit request when this discussion is closed. :) .usarnamechoice (talk) 21:26, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Judge Harris HartzEdit

I would like to take a screenshot & post a photo of Judge Harris Hartz from the You Tube link below. Do you know what license I can use to be approved by Wikipedia Commons? MIAJudges (talk) 22:57, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

@MIAJudges: Since Harris Hartz is still living, a non-free image of him is almost certainly not going to be allowed. Most YT videos are released under a license not compatible for Wikipedia's purposes and can't be uploaded to Wikipedia (either as a video or screenshot) without the copyright holder's consent. Sometimes, though, a YT account release its content under a Creative Commons license that's OK for Wikipedia. This is usually stated in the videos "see more" section. Can you see if this video has been released under such a license? -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:13, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
I do not see a "See more" section anywhere on the video. Does that mean the video does not have one or am I just missing it? 
MIAJudges (talk) 23:27, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
There's usually something in the gray box that that says "Show more" (not "See more" as I mistakenly posted above). It should be right below where it lists the number of views and how long ago the content was upload. If you click on this, you should be able to see whether the content has been released under a CC license. I checked and it doesn't appear to be released under such a license. If you're still confused, try looking at for example of a YT video released under a CC license. Click on that video's "Show more" and you should see "License Creative Commons Attribution license (reuse allowed)". If you don't see anything like that on any YT video, then it's best to assume it's copyrighted and most likely not OK to upload to Wikipedia. If you're still confused even after looking at that example, there's lots of information online about CC licensing and YT, including some YT videos explaining how to find CC licensed content. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:29, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
I don't see a "See more" section anywhere on the video. Does that mean this particular video doesn't have one or am I just missing it?
MIAJudges (talk) 00:46, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
There is a "Show more" link; but all it does is reveal the four "chapters" into which the broadcast was divided, and show the one comment which was made to the video. There's no copyright waiver there. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:52, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
@MIAJudges: Did you read my second post above where I explained "See more" was a mistake and you should be looking for "Show more"? If you did, then why simply repost the same "I don't see a "See more" section anywhere ... " that you posted more than an hour earlier. Repeatedly posting the same thing over and over again isn't going to get you a faster or different response, and it's not going to make others want to try and help you. Double posts often happen and aren't a big deal, but posting pretty much the same thing over an hour later and almost 30 minutes after it was responded to the first time, it probably not the best way to try and seek assistance. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:00, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
Ah no, I didn't see your second reply. I'm just getting back from my lunch break. Let me take a look. Thank you
MIAJudges (talk) 01:02, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
Ok, I see it in the video you posted. Creative Commons Attribution license (reuse allowed). I will look for that going forward whenever I have a question as to if I can use it or not.
Thank you for your help
MIAJudges (talk) 01:07, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

February 2Edit

Can I edit my university articleEdit

Based on Wikipedia rules, am I free to edit the article which belongs to the university that I'm currently studying in? Is it Wikipedia:Conflict of interest? It does not make sense. Because a physicist edits articles in physics more frequently. A Chinese person may edit China related articles more frequently. A human being might edit articles related to humans. There are blurred lines of when it is actually a conflict of interest.

Anyhow, Can I edit my university article? LastElement (talk) 02:02, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

@LastElement: COI is a continuum. You must decide for yourself if your relationship to the subject rises to the level of a COI. In general just being a student there rarely rises to that level. Go ahead and declare your relationship on your user page, but be meticulous about using published information instead of personal knowledge. -Arch dude (talk) 02:24, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
Hi LastElement. Are you being compensated (e.g. money, academic credit, internship) in any way to edit the article about your school? Are you being asked by someone at your school to make edits on behalf of the school that reflects the particular interests of the school? Conflict of interest editing isn't something that's expressly forbidden by Wikipedia (unless it's undeclared paid editing), but it's something that's highly discourgaged because it often leads to more serious problems. Because many COI editors often are more WP:NOTHERE than WP:HERE, many of the Wikipedia community are quite suspicious of the motives of any COI editor and mistakenly assume that all COI editors are a problem just waiting to happen. Simply being a student of a school doesn't automatically mean you have a conflict of interest; however, if your edits start to indicate that you're more interested in promoting the school or advocating on behalf of the school than trying to comply with relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines, then that could indicate that you do have a serious COI and should follow relevant policies and guidelines related to COI editing. If other editors start reverting some or all of the edits you're making because your edits aren't really in accordance with relevant policies and guidelines, and your response is someting like "I go to school here so I know more than you", your Wikipedia experience isn't probably going to be very enjoyable but may also turn out to be very brief.
Since you've made only two edits so far with this account,a nd assuming that means you're completely new to Wikipedia editing, perhaps it would be better to edit other articles not related to your school for a bit to gain some more familiarity with Wikipedia's various policies and guidelines and how they're being applied by others. Is there some pressing reason why you need to edit the article about your school asap? It will, after all, almost certainly still be there after you've become more familiar with Wikipedia, and you might find it a bit easier to edit appropriately and avoid problems with some more experience. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:25, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
I was a wikipedia editor more than ten years ago, and I left it to get some time for my job and life. There is no emergency to come out of blue and wanting to edit my university article, but when I see its a short article, and there are bunch of independent sources there which cover the topic, its like a social responsibility to complete it. I do not want to just promote it, but I want to say the facts, based on reliable sources. So now, you feel its appropriate for me to start editing my university article, considering that I'm familiar with wikipedia rules, from my past experience in more than ten years ago (if all the rules have not been changed). LastElement (talk) 02:35, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
A few things based upon what you posted above. First, as long as your edits indicate you're WP:HERE, you probably won't have any problems editing the article. So, if you believe you can improve, then be WP:BOLD and go a head and do so. If someone disagrees with your edits, remember to try use the article's talk page to discuss and resolve things per WP:DR. As long as you don't try use any past connection you may have had with the school as some sort of justification for why you're edits should be allowed, you should be fine. Please understand, you don't need my or anyone else's permission to edit the article. Edits made by COI editors aren't simply reverted because of their COI per se (at least they shouldn't be); they're mostly reverted because they're not very good edits.
Next, if you can still access your old account, you might want to use that instead of this new one you created. It might make it clear to other users that you're not a complete newbie and have some idea about Wikipedia and editing articles. You're not required to do so, but you might find yourself being asked something like "Have you ever edited with a different account?" if you start doing things or knowing about things that a typical Wikipedia newbie might not do or know. If you don't have access to your old account but want to let others know that you did edit Wikipedia before, you can add some information about this to your new accounts user page; for example, "I used to edit using this account ten years ago, but forgot the password" or something like that. You don't have to do anything like this, but some people do.
Finally, if, by chance, the account you were using ten years go was blocked or banned for some reason and that block or ban is still in effect, then creating a new account is going to be considered a violation of WP:EVADE. I'm not saying that this is the case, but just pointing out that blocks and bans apply to the person using an account, and not the account itself. Some people who are blocked or banned may reappear using a new account after several years have passed and may never be noticed; however, many probably end up going back doing what they were doing before or editing the articles they were editing be before and eventually someone notices them. If none of this applies to you, then don't worry about it. If it does, you might be better off requesting that your old account be unblocked so that you can properly return to being an editor in good standing instead of trying to work around the block. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:31, 2 February 2023 (UTC)


I composed my first article and (I believe) I submitted it for "review"... Would I have received some confirmation (from some person or automatic acknowledgement) that, indeed, I had successfully submitted it for "review"? Curious-curation (talk) 04:00, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi Curious-curation. Are you asking about User:Curious-curation/Sample page? If you are, then "no" that page has not been submitted for review yet. Apparently, someone recently tried to recreate an article about Gregory Perkel, but it was moved to the draft namespace as Draft:Gregory Perkel because it was considered not ready for article status. Was this you by chance? If it was and you would like that draft restored so that you can continue working on it, then you can ask a Wikipedia administrator to do so by posting a request at WP:REFUND. I'm not an administrator so I can't see the draft that was deleted. If, however, the deleted draft is anything like what you've been working on in your user sandbox, I'm afraid neither of the two are going to be upgraded to article status anytime soon. Please take a look at Wikipedia:The answer to life, the universe, and everything, Help:Your first article and Help:Referencing for beginners for some general information about what kinds of subjects are OK to try and create Wikipedia articles about, and how to properly write and source a potential Wikipedia article. In addition, if you're connected to the subject of the article either personally or professionally, you might also want to take a look at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest for reference too. Finally, since the subject of the article appears to be still living, it's very important that you look at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons for reference too. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:00, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Account RecoveryEdit

We have created Onpassive account long back. We want to recover that account now. Please help us in recovering the account. (talk) 06:46, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi IP Are you asking about a Wikipedia account or are you asking about something completely unrelated to Wikipedia? If it's the former, please clarify the name of the account and perhaps someone can help you. If it's the latter, then sorry but there's nothing anyone here can do to help you since this page is only for asking about things related to Wikipedia. You can try Googling "Onpassive" and see whether there's any information about it online. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:58, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
There is an account named ONPASSIVE, which has no edits here and was indefinitely blocked on Wikimedia Commons for having a promotional username & spamming in 2020, but it does not have a email adress specified. There is also another account named ONPASSIVE OFFICIAL (talk · contribs · deleted · filter log · SUL · Google) (block · soft · promo · cause · bot · hard · spam · vandal), which has 1 edit here and was indefinitely blocked for {{uw-spamublock}} (more info there) which does appear to have a valid email adress specified. Victor Schmidt (talk) 07:45, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
I am an administrator and could view the deleted revision of User:ONPASSIVE OFFICIAL, and it was overtly promotional and completely inappropriate for this encyclopedia. I advise against further editing of that kind. Wikipedia is not a platform for advertising, marketing or promotion. Cullen328 (talk) 07:53, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Reversed editsEdit

Hi, I am a massive fan of the Undead series by MaryJanice Davidson and saw that the wiki page was outdated. For some reason user Sheep8144402 reversed my edits saying they were unconstructive. Just wondering if this person is an admin or something and why my adding additional (missing) information and correcting outdated information is considered 'unconstructive'. Thanks ~AussieAmazon — Preceding unsigned comment added by AussieAmazon (talkcontribs) 07:07, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Hello, AussieAmazon. Your edit began with You'd think that traipsing around Hell with her half sister, Laura, would mean Betsy got to know Laura better. We never address the reader directly. Encyclopedic content is written in a neutral, disinterested tone. We never assume or comment on what the reader might or might not think. Cullen328 (talk) 07:38, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
Also, your assumptions seem to go beyond the bare bones facts of the plot into your own personal interpretations. Please be aware that Original research of this kind is not permitted on Wikipedia. Cullen328 (talk) 07:42, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Okay, that makes sense. Thank you for explaining. Could you explain the other edits which were removed? Such as updating the number of books in series, and the additional short stories which accompany the main story? I'm a very new contributor and am happy to take direction. ~AussieAmazon — Preceding unsigned comment added by AussieAmazon (talkcontribs) 08:13, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

AussieAmazon, I do not have the time to examine all of your edits, but it appears that you were adding content without providing references to reliable sources verifying your additions. Cullen328 (talk) 08:21, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
Please read Referencing for beginners. Cullen328 (talk) 08:47, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Bundling citesEdit

I've recently learnt how to do this, while doing a bit on Belton House. I think it definitely looks more appealing than a great string, as well as making it easier to read. However, I can't work out how to deal with a duplicate reference that I want to appear both in the bundled cite and standalone. Without bundling, I'd just run it through Refill, but that doesn't work. An example is the Orangery reference 98, which also appears in the bundled cite 103. Is there any solution to this? I've looked here but can't find an answer. Any advice greatly appreciated. KJP1 (talk) 17:08, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

@KJP1: You have already exercised your editorial judgement to modify our default citation scheme to make the article text easier to read. Speaking personally, I like the result. You can continue to modify our unofficial rules to achieve your goals. In this case I would place the source in the "sources" section and refer to it as a source, using the same source citation scheme as you do for your other sources. -Arch dude (talk) 17:26, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
@Arch dude: - Ah, thank you. I have seen template cites like {{NHLE}} used like an sfn book and placed in the Sources. I've not used this approach and will give it a try. And glad you liked the look of the bundling. A string of a dozen or more cites did look pretty dreadful. As importantly, it didn't find favour at FAR, and trying to save the little bronze star is the point of the Belton work. Thanks again. KJP1 (talk) 18:20, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Peppino D'AgostinoEdit

Hello, my name is Peppino D'Agostino and I have a page on Wikipedia. When somebody search for my name two pictures appears: one with my age and one with my albums. The page that display my age is incorrect. Right now it appears that I'm 72 years old. My age is actually 66. I was born on October 1956 and I can prove it. This mistake needs to be fixed because I'm an entertainer and potential client may be mislead by this false information. I've been trying to correct the mistake about my age for years. Can you please please help me? I'd appreciate it. Thanks Peppino D'Agostino guitarist. Seagull1056 (talk) 17:55, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Hello. The Wikipedia article Peppino D'Agostino does not mention your age anywhere.
  Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information, but Google's Knowledge Graph has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong. The same feedback facility is also provided on Bing and some other search engines. ColinFine (talk) 18:04, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
Just happened to be here and saw this. For me, the bigger question is how a BLP with one cite, and that not a strong one, has survived for 17 years. KJP1 (talk) 18:26, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
@ColinFine This information has probably been scraped from wikidata (d:Q3899403) where the incorrect date appears with the claim it was copied from the Italian Wikipedia (where the date was added unsourced by an IP in 2011 [1]). (talk) 18:29, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
And changed to 1957 by AndreA in this edit a couple of weeks ago. Thanks for finding it.
I have updated it in Wikidata, but I'll ask at D:WD:Project chat how it should be handled.
Seagull1056, if 163. is correct that that is where the date is coming from, this should fix it; but we have no control over how long Google will take to update it from Wikidata. ColinFine (talk) 19:26, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
Further comment, Seagull1056: the date in it-wiki, by which I updated Wikidata, is 1957; but you say it is 1956. Do you have a reliable published source for that? If you have, and you can provide it, then I can update the English article, the Italian article, and the Wikidata item, from it. But we do require a published source. (Unpublished information, such as birth certificates, are not acceptable). --ColinFine (talk) 19:44, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
In the Oct. 05-2016 San Luis Obispo article article they mentioned that I'm celebrating my 60th birthday. article 106186492
Peppino D'Agostino to bring guitar wizardry to SLO county:
October 5, 2016 - D'Agostino, who celebrates his 60th birthday this month, has reason to believe in music's power. Since leaving his native Sicily for the Bay.... 2601:644:81:FC20:39F2:A659:6A1E:7C4B (talk) 20:31, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
Thank you. I'll add the reference. ColinFine (talk) 21:36, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
OK, Seagull1056. I have now corrected the date, citing the source you gave, in English and Italian Wikipedia, and in Wikidata, so I would expect Google to pick that up - but, as I said earlier, we have no control over how long Google will take to do that.
The article Peppino D'Agostino is in very poor shape, because it has essentially no citations to sources which meet our Golden rule - published in reliable sources, independent of the subject, and having significant coverage of them. (The two sources currently there do not meet this: the Tribune, which I added, is based on an interview and so is not independent, while Guitar Player is probably not independent and has only a paragraph on your playing). If you have any sources which meet these criteria, Peppino, please cite them on the talk page (you shouldn't edit the article yourself because of your conflict of interest), and I will see if I can improve the article with them. --ColinFine (talk) 22:22, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Probable vandalism on a draft pageEdit

I have a draft for the song Is There Someone Else? by The Weeknd, but it keeps being edited by a user known as GrandePOV (they don't have a user page). GrandePOV keeps inserting information about a non-existent remix with Ariana Grande, supposedly featured on an album called Heartless (which, as far as I could find, is a fan-propagated non-existent cover album of The Weeknd's After Hours), along with the discography template and other elements. I keep reverting the page and it's always reverted back. GrandePOV also has their own draft page (without the question mark) that says the same thing. I really do not know what to do, so I hope that a staff member could help me out or something.

Sincerely, Dontuseurrealname (talk) 18:11, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Behavioral issues aren't really the sort of thing the help desk is for, but I am an admin here and am looking into this. It looks like this person may be promoting hoaxes, so that's a problem. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:51, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
I've gone ahead and opened a discussion at WP:ANI about this, your input could be helpful there. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:00, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Hello, for years I've tried to address the incorrect logo on the Charlotte Checkers Wikipedia page. As the team's Director of Creative Services, I'm trying to upload the correct version but can't seem to get it to work. The file currently in place is an incorrect file and needs to be removed. Zacharvey2019 (talk) 21:32, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

This is a new account. Under what account(s) have you been trying to do that? --Orange Mike | Talk 21:44, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
Hi there, it's been a couple years since I've last tried because I got nowhere with it then. I made a new account to try again. Is this something you can help me with? Zacharvey2019 (talk) 21:47, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
  Working on it right now. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:57, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
  Done. It is now in the article. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:03, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
Thank you so much!!! Zacharvey2019 (talk) 22:10, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Zach, before you do anything else here you are required to make full disclosure on your userpage of your status as a paid editor and your conflict of interest. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:16, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

I am not a paid editor, and I have no conflict of interest. @Beeblebrox was able to change the logo to a correct version so we're all set. Thank you. Zacharvey2019 (talk) 22:19, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
You said you are the "team's Director of Creative Services" which means you are actually both of those things, but if you don't plan to edit the article further we can just let that be. Otherwise, you should follow the instructions in the template I left on your talk page. Paid/COI editing is looked upon very dimly here, but there is a correct way to go about it. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:22, 2 February 2023 (UTC)


How in the hell do I find a biography of someone 1946silvershell (talk) 23:06, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

There is a search bar at the top of the screen. It used to be in the right corner, but it is now more to the left. 331dot (talk) 23:19, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
@1946silvershell: Depending on your screen and settings, you may have to first click a magnifying glass icon. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:30, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

February 3Edit

Past DonationsEdit

Can you please log my past donations to my username MarkBallet account. I have made the following 4 donations to wikipedia associated with my email address associated with this account. They are listed below.

$10.40 on Aug 7, 2019; $10.40 on Sep 17, 2020; $10.00 on Oct 7, 2021; $10.00 on Nov 8, 2022.

Sincerely, Mark Brown MarkBallet (talk) 00:14, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

MarkBallet This is not the place to communicate regarding donations, but I can say that donations are not associated with accounts. We also don't know what email address you use as that is not public. 331dot (talk) 00:23, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
MarkBallet See this link about donations. -- StarryNightSky11 01:39, 3 February 2023 (UTC)