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This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page with a "hook" (an interesting note). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area and then promoted into the Queue. To update this page, purge it.

Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
July 15 1
August 29 1
August 30 1
August 31 1
September 2 1
September 3 1
September 13 1
September 14 1
September 15 1 1
September 16 1
September 19 1
September 20 1
September 21 1
September 22 2 1
September 24 2 1
September 26 2
September 27 3 1
September 28 1 1
September 29 2
September 30 6 2
October 1 2 2
October 2 4 4
October 3 9 7
October 4 9 7
October 5 11 5
October 6 12 6
October 7 6 3
October 8 14 10
October 9 7 3
October 10 8 5
October 11 10 7
October 12 11 4
October 13 8 4
October 14 9 5
October 15 8 3
October 16 13 4
October 17 15 7
October 18 5
Total 192 93
Last updated 11:33, 18 October 2021 UTC
Current time is 11:44, 18 October 2021 UTC [refresh]

Instructions for nominatorsEdit

If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing.

Further information: Official supplementary guidelines and unofficial guide

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Alternatively, you may leave a message at the bottom of the DYK project talk page with the article you would like to nominate and the hook you would like to propose.

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  1. Install the DYK helper script by adding the line {{subst:lusc|User:SD0001/DYK-helper.js}} to your common.js page.
  2. Go back to the article, and choose the "DYK" option from the "More" menu (see image).
  3. Fill in the form and submit it.
  4. Check back periodically to address comments or concerns from the reviewer (it may take several weeks).

Manual instructionsEdit

Create a subpage for your new DYK suggestion and then list the page below under the date the article was created or the expansion began or it became a good article (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any registered user may nominate a DYK suggestion (if you are not a registered user, please leave a message at the bottom of the DYK project talk page with the details of the article you would like to nominate and the hook you would like to propose); self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination (consider watchlisting your nomination page).

Read these instructions completely before proceeding.

For simplified instructions, see User:Rjanag/Quick DYK 2.

I.
Create the nomination subpage.

Enter the article title in the box below and click the button. (To nominate multiple articles together, enter any or all of the article titles.) You will then be taken to a preloaded nomination page.


II.
Write the nomination.

On the nomination page, fill in the relevant information. See Template:NewDYKnomination and {{NewDYKnomination/guide}} for further information.

  • Not every line of the template needs to be filled in. For instance, if you are not nominating an image to appear with your hook, there is no need to fill in the image-related lines.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Publish page.
  • Make sure the nomination page is on your watchlist, so you can follow the review discussion.
III.

In the current nominations section find the subsection for the date on which the article was created or on which expansion began (or, if a new Good Article, the date on which it became a GA), not the date on which you make the nomination.

  • At the top of that subsection (before other nominations already there, but below the section head and hidden comment) add {{Did you know nominations/YOUR ARTICLE TITLE}}.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Publish page.

Frequently asked questionsEdit

How do I write an interesting hook?

Successful hooks tend to have several traits. Most importantly, they share a surprising or intriguing fact. They give readers enough context to understand the hook, but leave enough out to make them want to learn more. They are written for a general audience who has no prior knowledge of or interest in the topic area. Lastly, they are concise, and do not attempt to cover multiple facts or present information about the subject beyond what's needed to understand the hook.

When will my nomination be reviewed?

This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first, it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions below).

Where is my hook?

If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.

If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.

Instructions for reviewersEdit

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

  • Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
  • Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
  • The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
  • To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

    If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a line :* <!-- REPLACE THIS LINE TO WRITE FIRST COMMENT, KEEPING  :* --> showing you where you should put the comment.
  • Save the page.

If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Instructions for project membersEdit

How to promote an accepted hookEdit

At-a-glance instructions on how to promote an approved hook to a Prep area
Check list for nomination review completeness
1) Select a hook from the approved nominations page that has one of these ticks at the bottom post: Symbol confirmed.svg Symbol voting keep.svg.
2) Check to make sure basic review requirements were completed.
a. Any outstanding issue following Symbol confirmed.svg Symbol voting keep.svg needs to be addressed before promoting.
3) Check the article history for any substantive changes since it was nominated or reviewed.
4) Images for the lead slot must be freely licensed. Fair-use images are not permitted. Images loaded on Commons that appear on the Main Page are automatically protected by KrinkleBot.
5) Hook must be stated in both the article and source (which must be cited at the end of the article sentence where stated).
6) Hook should make sense grammatically.
7) Try to vary subject matters within each prep area.
8) Try to select a funny, quirky or otherwise upbeat hook for the last or bottom hook in the set.
Steps to add a hook to prep
  • In one tab, open the nomination page of the hook you want to promote.
  • In a second tab, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.
1) For hooks held for specific dates, refer to "Local update times" section on DYK Queue.
a. Completed Prep area number sets will be promoted by an administrator to corresponding Queue number.
2) Copy and paste the hook into a chosen slot.
a. Make sure there's a space between ... and that, and a ? at the end.
b. Check that there's a bold link to the article.
3) If it's the lead (first) hook, paste the image where indicated at the top of the template.
4) Copy and paste ALL the credit information (the {{DYKmake}} and {{DYKnom}} templates) at the bottom
5) Check your work in the prep's Preview mode.
a. At the bottom under "Credits", to the right of each article should have the link "View nom subpage" ; if not, a subpage parameter will need to be added to the DYKmake.
6) Save the Prep page.
Closing the DYK nomination page
  1. At the upper left
    • Change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
    • Change |passed= to |passed=yes
  2. At the bottom
    • Just above the line containing

      }}<!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.-->

      insert a new, separate line containing one of the following:
      To [[T:DYK/P1|Prep 1]]
      To [[T:DYK/P2|Prep 2]]
      To [[T:DYK/P3|Prep 3]]
      To [[T:DYK/P4|Prep 4]]
      To [[T:DYK/P5|Prep 5]]
      To [[T:DYK/P6|Prep 6]]
      To [[T:DYK/P7|Prep 7]]
    • Also paste the same thing into the edit summary.
  3. Check in Preview mode. Make sure everything is against a pale blue background (nothing outside) and there are no stray characters, like }}, at the top or bottom.
  4. Save.

For more information, please see T:TDYK#How to promote an accepted hook.

Handy copy sources: To [[T:DYK/P1|Prep 1]] To [[T:DYK/P2|Prep 2]] To [[T:DYK/P3|Prep 3]] To [[T:DYK/P4|Prep 4]] To [[T:DYK/P5|Prep 5]] To [[T:DYK/P6|Prep 6]] To [[T:DYK/P7|Prep 7]]

How to remove a rejected hookEdit

  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queueEdit

  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
  • Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.

How to move a nomination subpage to a new nameEdit

  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.

NominationsEdit

Older nominationsEdit

Articles created/expanded on July 15Edit

Osa Maliki

Moved to mainspace by Juxlos (talk). Self-nominated at 09:59, 15 July 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Length, date, sourcing, qpq checks out. However, I find that the wording of the hook doesn't catch the essence here. I'd suggest ALT1: "... that Osa Maliki, a former Communist Party of Indonesia member, cooperated with army commander and religious groups in an anti-communist purge inside the Indonesian National Party?" --Soman (talk) 18:30, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[]
  • @Soman: Sure, that’d be fine too. Juxlos (talk) 01:12, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[]
  •   New reviewer needed to complete the review including checking proposed ALT1 hook by first reviewer (original hook has been struck). BlueMoonset (talk) 16:17, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[]
 @Juxlos and Soman: Hmmm.. the hook depends of him being a member of the communist party (but the ref won't load) and anti-communist moves which are in the (very long) referenced document (I think) but I cannot (quickly) see where it says anything like "cooperated with army commander and religious groups in an anti-communist purge" in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Victuallers (talkcontribs)
I'm bowing out (or at least I did some time ago). I cannot equate the PKI with communism and I don't know why Maliki objected to the PKI (it may be because they were communist). Too complex. I cannot check the first ref as its in Indonesian. Victuallers (talk) 13:30, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[]
The wording in the article is "By mid-October, army commanders and religious groups have backed and cooperated with Osa's faction in eliminating supposed pro-PKI elements from PNI". I'd say that is very close to ALT1. --Soman (talk) 22:02, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[]
@Soman: would you say it's acceptable? If so, it's best to just push it into DYKA. Juxlos (talk) 04:24, 29 September 2021 (UTC)[]
I didn't object to ALT1, I presented it. The objection came from other editors. I'd say that the distinction communism/PKI is secondary, in contemporary Indonesian context anti-communist/anti-PKI is basically the same (with the possible exception for Murba Party, but that's a more marginal phenomenon). --Soman (talk) 14:30, 29 September 2021 (UTC)[]

  new reviewer needed to check ALT1 and finish the review. theleekycauldron (talkcontribs) (they/them) 01:51, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on August 29Edit

East Germany–Zanzibar relations

Created by Soman (talk). Self-nominated at 19:17, 29 August 2021 (UTC).[]

  •   The article was created within the past seven days and is long enough; however, the hook is not cited with an incline citation. It may also be helpful to include the ambassador's name, Chargé d'Affaires Günther Fritsch, in the hook. Huey117 (talk) 00:35, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Didn't notice the review above, anyway, I think the article is fine - the hook's claim is cited in the body. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:48, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Genuine question: what exactly is meant by "permanent"? Günther Fritsch appears to have been there for a little over one year. If that is permanent, does it mean that other East German diplomats flew home for the weekends from their African countries? Schwede66 18:45, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[]
  • 'Permanent residence' is an established term in diplomacy, there is a difference between ambassadors accredited to a country but based somewhere else and those that are based in the country where they are accredited. --Soman (talk) 23:31, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[]
  • I see. I wonder how well known that is. I'm familiar with the concept of permanent residency and in particular New Zealand permanent residency. There's unfortunately not an article about the diplomacy term. I wonder whether it's possible to set up a redirect to a relevant article and write something about the concept. I suspect that others will also struggle to get the point that is being conveyed here. Alternatively, maybe it needs an alternative hook that's less confusing / ambiguous. Beyond that, having now looked at the reference, I quote (page 64): "The outcome was the presence of the first East German ambassador to take up permanent residence in a recognised African state." I'm not sure what exactly is being referred to by "recognised state" but I would assume that it's a subset of all African states. Would it therefore be possible that what the hook conveys does not necessarily align with what the source says? Schwede66 23:51, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[]
  •   user:Soman, the above needs some attention. Maybe an alt hook is best. Schwede66 17:17, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Sorry, yes, that's fine for a hook, theleekycauldron. I didn't think of myself as the reviewer of this nominations; Huey117 is. I was just reading some hooks, this one caught my attention and I started looking into it. I haven't done anything else but review the hook and read the source that goes with it. Schwede66 06:46, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  new reviewer needed as the reviewer has been AWOL for a while. theleekycauldron (talkcontribs) (they/them) 01:53, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  •   The hook fact is mentioned in the lede, but is not directly mentioned in the article (the body wording is "the first East German diplomat to take permanent residence as ambassador" rather than "the first East German embassy in Africa"), so either the latter sentence needs to be revised, or a reference be added to the lede mention. In addition, a QPQ has yet to be provided. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:47, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Whoops, not sure how I missed that. The rest of the review still stands however. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:21, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[]
I feel we are back to square one. The initial hook was "first East German ambassador with permanent residence to an African country", which was then contested on the notion that 'permanent residence' was somehow ambiguous. Either we go with the most factually correct wording ("first East German ambassador with permanent residence to an African country") or we water it down ("first Embassy in Africa"). This embassy was, per the fact that it had the first ambassador with permanent residence, the first proper embassy in Africa with a building etc, but GDR probably had temporary delegations before that. --Soman (talk) 11:54, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Soman: Adding a footnote to East Germany initiated a number assistance programs to Zanzibar, and established its first embassy in Africa on Zanzibar. would solve my main issue, at the very least. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:21, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[]
added now. --Soman (talk) 17:12, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Thanks, I hope to finish the full review by tomorrow. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:38, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  •   Adding to Huey's review, no close paraphrasing was found and a QPQ has been done. ALT1 addresses Huey's original concerns since it makes mentioning the ambassador's name unnecessary, and it's more concise and accurate. While the article is technically good to go, I just find it confusing that there's no mention of what happened to the embassy-turned-consulate after the compromise was reached: was it also closed in 1971, or before? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:06, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on August 30Edit

Turkoman (ethnonym)

 
Territories where Oghuz languages are spoken today

... that a significant percentage of residents of Azerbaijan, Turkey, and Turkmenistan are descendants of Oghuz Turks, also known as Turkomans, and the languages they speak belong to a single group within one language family (pictured)? Sources: Shukurov, Rustam (1987). Fadl Allah Rashid ed-Din. Oghuzname (in Russian). Baku, Azerbaijan: Elm. pp. 1–26; Doerfer, Gerhard (1987). "Turks in Iran (Turkish translation)": 431. It is very strange that the word "Turkmen" still leads to confusion; in Leningrad, I saw that Iraqi Oghuz literature was cataloged under the name "Turkmen"; in fact, the word Turkman simply means an Oghuz nomad. Cite journal requires |journal= (help)

  • ... that a majority of residents of Azerbaijan, Turkey, and Turkmenistan are descendants of Turkomans, and their languages belong to an Oghuz group of Turkic languages (pictured)? Sources: Shukurov, Rustam (1987). Fadl Allah Rashid ed-Din. Oghuzname (in Russian). Baku, Azerbaijan: Elm. pp. 1–26; Doerfer, Gerhard (1987). "Turks in Iran (Turkish translation)": 431. It is very strange that the word "Turkmen" still leads to confusion; in Leningrad, I saw that Iraqi Oghuz literature was cataloged under the name "Turkmen"; in fact, the word Turkman simply means an Oghuz nomad. Cite journal requires |journal= (help) Julian Rentzsch, "Uniformity and diversity in Turkic inceptive constructions", Johannes Gutenberg University, pp. 270-271

Improved to Good Article status by Visioncurve (talk). Self-nominated at 03:09, 1 September 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Comment (not a review): Hello, good work on getting this article to GA status! I note that your hook doesn't include the title of the article; you will need to think of a new hook that includes the term "Turkoman" (which should be linked in bold in the hook, like so: Turkoman). This page has more information about composing a hook, which may be helpful. Cheers, Chocmilk03 (talk) 02:58, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Pinging Visioncurve in case they missed the above comment. Note that you don't necessarily need a new hook if you can integrate a link to your DYK article into the existing hook. However, if you want the image used, you'll also have to integrate that into the hook so that it includes something like (pictured) or (helmet pictured). MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 18:20, 4 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  •   The supplied hook is 221 prose characters including spaces and punctuation, well over the maximum of 200 (and it's better to be shorter than that). I have struck the hook; Visioncurve, please supply a new one that's shorter. Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:40, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Comment perhaps one of these hooks could work?
ALT1: ... that Turks in Turkey used to be known as Turkomans?
ALT1a: ... that there are Turkomans in Turkmenistan, but not Turkey?
ALT1b: ... that there are Turkomans in Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and Pakistan, but not Turkey?
pinging @BlueMoonset and Visioncurve theleekycauldron (talkcontribs) (they/them) 08:46, 29 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Visioncurve overwrote their original hook (which was struck) with the following, which I have moved down here (and restored the original hook so it's available for reference); ALT2 is 163 characters:
  • ALT2: ... that a majority of residents of Azerbaijan, Turkey, and Turkmenistan are descendants of Turkomans, and their languages belong to an Oghuz group of Turkic languages (pictured)? Sources: Shukurov, Rustam (1987). Fadl Allah Rashid ed-Din. Oghuzname (in Russian). Baku, Azerbaijan: Elm. pp. 1–26; Doerfer, Gerhard (1987). "Turks in Iran (Turkish translation)": 431. It is very strange that the word "Turkmen" still leads to confusion; in Leningrad, I saw that Iraqi Oghuz literature was cataloged under the name "Turkmen"; in fact, the word Turkman simply means an Oghuz nomad. Cite journal requires |journal= (help) Julian Rentzsch, "Uniformity and diversity in Turkic inceptive constructions", Johannes Gutenberg University, pp. 270-271
  •   Full review needed now that there are hooks proposed that don't exceed the maximum length. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:59, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on August 31Edit

Lady Glenorchy's Church

 
Lady Glenorchy's Church's facade

Created by Stephencdickson (talk). Nominated by Sahaib3005 (talk) at 19:14, 6 September 2021 (UTC).[]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing:  N - The prose has a satisfactory number of citations, but many of the references are cryptic and unverifiable, from what I can tell, including "Grant's Old and New Edinburgh yol 2 p.360", "John Kay's Portraits vol.2 : Thomas Snell Jones", "Fasti Ecclesiastae Scoticana by Hew Scott", "Buildings of Scotland: Edinburgh by Gifford, McWilliam and Walker", and "Ewing's Annals of the Free Church". In general, the citations need more information. I believe that the lists of ministers and members also need citations to be eligible for DYK.
  • Neutral:  Y
  • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:  Y
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   I think the citation issues I mentioned above are the only thing that would keep this nomination from moving forward. Dugan Murphy (talk) 22:03, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[]

  • Comment
@Dugan Murphy:, @Stephencdickson: @Sahaib3005: I think this is an interesting article and to try to resolve the citing issues I have expanded the citations in question. Ewing's Annals is also available online but the link to the site is blocked by Wikipedia. I'm not sure that the lists of ministers need individual citations as several have Wikilinks, but I suspect they would all be covered by citing Fasti and Ewing's Annals. Could the nomination be reviewed again in the light of this expansion. Papamac (talk) 16:00, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[]
Thanks, Papamac! I think that the references are now sufficiently written out to be verifiable. The only issue now, as I see it, is the largely uncited lists of ministers and members. DYK rule D2 says "The article in general should use inline, cited sources. A rule of thumb is one inline citation per paragraph, excluding the lead, plot summaries, and paragraphs which summarize other cited content." This rule does not exclude lists, so unless someone can show me a rule stating otherwise, I think there either needs to be one citation that covers each list or at least citation per line, like the listing for John Tawse WS. Dugan Murphy (talk) 17:39, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[]
Yes, agreed @Dugan Murphy:. Hopefully the creator @Stephencdickson: or nominator @Sahaib3005: could add these. Papamac (talk) 10:46, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on September 2Edit

Inger K. Frith

  • ... that after being a high ranked pilot during World War II, Inger K. Frith became the first female president of an international sports organization and returned archery to the Olympics?
    Source: 1 "Mrs. Inger K. FRITH, the only lady President of an International Sports Federation”; 2 “ the highest ranking Danish woman in service during the Second World War” & “ She is the first woman to serve as president of an international sports federation. She is main architect of Archery's reintroduction to the Olympic programme in 1972”.

Created by SportsOlympic (talk). Self-nominated at 14:12, 2 September 2021 (UTC).[]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

  • Sources:
  1. "Olympedia – Inger K. Frith". www.olympedia.org. – this source is of questionable reliability.
  2. MRS. INGER FRITH, Olympic Review, 1971 – the link doesn’t work for me and there is inadequate bibliographic information for me to verify what it is.
  3. "Danish WW2 Pilots | Inger Kristine Frith (née Pragholm) (1909 - 1981)". www.danishww2pilots.dk. – I am satisfied a website run by Mikkel Plannthin about WWII Danish pilots is generally reliable (he has been published writing about this subject matter) but ... this seems to have been written largely from information gained in this forum thread and there is a big disclaimer at the bottom of this article raising some very significant discrepancies within the entry, which are included as fact in the article. Particularly the rank of Captain which never existed in the WAAF. I feel this raises questions about the reliability of the source.
  4. "Inger Frith blazed a trail for women in sports governance". www.insidethegames.biz. March 5, 2021. – looks reliable to me.
  • The third paragraph in the WWII section is uncited.
  • Filling more parameters in Template:Cite web, particularly authorship, would go a long way to presentation.
  1. likely the highest ranked Danish woman in service during the Second World War – the cited source states that she was the highest ranked that the author is aware of.
  2. She became a volunteer in the army in Cape Town and was later accepted for the Air Force – the cited source makes no mention of the Army.

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  N - cites two sources with issues as described above
  • Interesting:  Y
  • Other problems:  N - perhaps base the hook on excellent insidethegames.biz article, something like “ that after serving in the Royal Air Force during the Second World War, Inger K. Frith became the first woman to lead a major international sporting federation and returned archery to the Olympics?” I have added it as a possible alternate above but am happy to play with it.

QPQ:  N - Not done
Overall:   I apologise if I seem to have been very harsh and I could be being very finicky, but the article is very clunky to read, with short little sentences and paragraphs that I feel don’t flow very well. Further, there is no such thing as the “British Air Force”, it is the United Kingdom’s air force or the Royal Air Force. Earwig shows 13.8% match to the Plannthin webpage, but I don’t think it breaches the COPYVIO threshold. Also QPQ is required. Cavalryman (talk) 04:08, 3 September 2021 (UTC).[]

Hello @SportsOlympic: this nomination has been sitting here for almost a week and I can see you have not edited the article, nor have you supplied a QPQ. Are you still interested in pursuing the nomination? Cavalryman (talk) 12:56, 9 September 2021 (UTC).[]
Olympedia are the same people as Sports Reference and is states at WP:Sports as reliable. It’s a pitty you can’t open the second source, is has great and reliable content. So the main issue is that it stated that she was Captain and the naming of the British Air Force? I’m not native English, so I can’t write it in high class English. As that is a problem, I can’t improve it to your satisfactions. I will rename the Air Force name and title of Captain because that might me wrong. Next to that, I don’t like your other option: it not mentioned she had a high rank and she was the first female at an sports federation SportsOlympic (talk) 20:24, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[]
I can find no such reference at WP:Sports but perhaps I am missing something, there has only been one discussion at the reliable source noticeboard WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 335#Olympedia, that being said it is not used to cite anything controversial. Whilst you have made a couple of small fixes, you missed some of the nuance in my comments above particularly those points listed in green. Further, the claim in the hook to be high ranked depends upon if the rank of Captain (which is clearly wrong) is supposed to be an Army or a Navy Captain, a Captain in the Army is not high ranked, Navy is getting up there. As it stands I feel this article is not at the standard required to be featured on the main page, but I am happy for others to take a look at it. Cavalryman (talk) 22:38, 9 September 2021 (UTC).[]
I have not looked at the article but would like to confirm that Olympedia is an authoritative source for Olympic bios. Schwede66 18:15, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[]
Schwede66, many thanks, honestly Olympedia is the least of the issues here. Kind regards, Cavalryman (talk) 22:39, 13 September 2021 (UTC).[]

  It has been over a week and the nominator has made very little effort to rectify many of the issues raised above, nor have they supplied a QPQ (I was considering donating a QPQ if issues were rectified). They have received a TP notification [1] and been pinged above, so unfortunately I think this should be marked as ineligible and closed. Cavalryman (talk) 00:44, 17 September 2021 (UTC).[]

  Hi Cavalryman, I've done considerable cleanup work on the article, finding published sources for a good bit of the material, and rewriting some parts based on the additions. This one should get a whole new review. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 06:40, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • It might need a new hook too:
@Mary Mark Ockerbloom: you sure have done some work on it, I will endeavour to provide a second review soon. Kind regards, Cavalryman (talk) 08:52, 17 September 2021 (UTC).[]
General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
  • Other problems:  Y

QPQ:  N - /
Overall:   There are still issues:

  • Sources:
  1. "Inger K. Frith". Olympedia. Retrieved 17 September 2021.  Y consensus here seems to be this is fairly reliable, it only used to cite name, DOB & DOD which is uncontroversial (but other issue below)
  2. "Danish WW2 Pilots | Inger Kristine Frith (née Pragholm) (1909 - 1981)". www.danishww2pilots.dk.  Y the clarification in Plannthin's book that she was in fact enlisted in the South African Air Force answers the rank (see South African military ranks#Air Force) and service number questions. See general note below.
  3. Plannthin, Mikkel (August 19, 2017). Britain's Victory, Denmark's Freedom: Danish Volunteers in Allied Air Forces During the Second World War. United Kingdom: Fonthill Media. Retrieved 17 September 2021.  Y
  4. Boehm, H. (1981). "In Memoriam" (PDF). FITA: Bulletin Officiel of the International Archery Federation30-31-32: 4–5. Retrieved 17 September 2021.  Y
  5. Sawyer, J. S. (1971). "RETIREMENT OF DR R. FRITH, O.B.E.". The Meteorological Magazine. 100 (1184).  Y
  6. "METEOROLOGICAL BRANCH" (PDF). Supplement to the London Gazette: 4882. 18 September 1951.  ? reliable as a primary source, but if it used it should have in-text attribution. Really this source is unnecessary as the second source above states everything here.
  7. Barker, Philip (5 March 2021). "Inger Frith blazed a trail for women in sports governance". Inside the Games. Retrieved 17 September 2021.  Y
  8. Rhode, Robert J. (1981). History of the Federation International De Tir A L Arc (PDF). I. Mahomet, ILL U.S.A. p. 326. Retrieved 17 September 2021.  Y
  9. Olympic Encyclopedia April 1985 Gymnastics and Archery. Comite International Olympique. 1985. pp. 50–56. Retrieved 17 September 2021.  Y
  10. "Mrs. Inger Frith" (PDF). Olympic Review. 1971. Retrieved 17 September 2021.  N there is still insufficient bibliographic information to meet WP:V - removed
  11. "Deaths: Frith, Inger Kristine Frith". The Times. October 26, 1981. p. 22.  ? reliable as a primary source, but again requiring in-text attribution, as in "According to the death notice". Death notices are what someone's family what published, not necessarily the truth. The information cited here is covered in other sources above. - reworded
  12. General note - more bibliographic information needs to be added to nearly all of the sources, particularly author (if available) and date of publication, but also publisher and location. If links break there is insufficient detail to meet WP:V and so the broken source and whatever is cited to it may be removed. - archive links added
  • Other problems:
  1. Inger Kristine Pragholm-Frith (23 January 1909 – 24 October 1981) The hyphenated surname Pragholm-Frith is not in any of the sources. - has been removed
  2. Inger Kristine Pragholm was born in Denmark on 23 January 1909. The cited source does not state she was born in Denmark, just that she was Danish and in 1940 she left Denmark for Paris. - resolved by changing citation
  3. After reaching South Africa she joined the South African Air Force. The cited source source makes no mention of the South African Air Force. - this has been resolved by changing citation
  4. The paragraph with the above sentence is very clunky and awkward to read, it requires copyediting. DONE
  5. Capt. Inger Kristine Frith (nee Pragholm) is recorded as being born on 23 January 1909, and having served (W/265733) in the South African Air Force (SAAF) from 23 October 1941 to 21 July 1945 as a meteorologist/forecaster. Extremely awkward, and leading with Captain gives the impression that she was subsequently demoted to Second Lieutenant in the following paragraph. - reworded
  6. She and her husband eventually settled in Crowthorne. Sticks out like a sore thumb, maybe move it into the later life section, as in "died in Crowthorne where she and Ronald had established their home."REMOVED
  7. In 1985, she was credited as "the main architect of archery's reintroduction to the Olympic programme in 1972." This quote needs in-text attribution. DONE
  • It's getting closer, with some of the issues raised in the first review have still not been resolved, and care needs to taken to ensure the correct source is used to cite certain pieces of information. I have struck ALT0 because we have now clarified that she was not "a high ranked pilot during World War II". Cavalryman (talk) 04:03, 20 September 2021 (UTC).[]
I have also struck my first ALT1 as she did not serve in the RAF but instead served in the SAAF, so have added ALT2, with no preference between it and ALT4. Cavalryman (talk) 00:48, 21 September 2021 (UTC). ALT numbers amended to reflect added ALT3 above. Cavalryman (talk) 21:46, 5 October 2021 (UTC).[]
Unfortunately, Cavalryman, there were two hooks labeled ALT3. I renamed the second one "ALT4", but you should specify whether you were referring to the first ALT3 or the one now called ALT4. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 21:08, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Mandarax: yes I can see the second ALT3 was added here, I have amended my comment accordingly. Kind regards, Cavalryman (talk) 21:46, 5 October 2021 (UTC).[]
I have copy-edited the article. She served in both the Women's RAF and the SAAF, but I am not sure that the article needs to be held up over debates about her wartime service. I have proposed an alternative that just focuses on her role in sports. The article is worth including in DYK, so I am happy to step in a help get it finished. The sources seem credible to me. Are there other issues left? PMCH2 (talk) 22:46, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[]
Respectfully, not all of the issues raised in the above review have been addressed. Further, then sent to Cairo where she transferred from the SAAF to Great Britain's Women's Royal Air Force, receiving a commission contradicts the preceding paragraph that says she served ... in the South African Air Force (SAAF) from 23 October 1941 to 21 July 1945 and the fact that to have been a Second Lieutenant she must already have been a commissioned officer. Cavalryman (talk) 12:49, 27 September 2021 (UTC).[]
I have added archive links for sources that don't have authors. I removed the one link that didn't work. Others have appropriate details. I have replied above to the concerns I have addressed. I removed the phrase about the commission. I have done my best to address all the issues. PMCH2 (talk) 03:26, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@PMCH2: when I get a chance I will have another detailed look. At a cursory glance, there is still plenty of room to add more bibliographic information to the citations, for instance the www.danishww2pilots.dk source should be:
Plannthin, Mikkel (12 September 2010). "Inger Kristine Frith (née Pragholm)". Danish WW2 Pilots. Archived from the original on 31 August 2021. Retrieved 29 August 2021.
I will look at the rest soon. Also, a QPQ still has not been provided. Cavalryman (talk) 21:59, 5 October 2021 (UTC).[]
I haven't seen a DYK be scrutinized this closely before in regards to citations. I stepped in to try to help, but it's not my article, and I have spent as much time as I can. You seem to have a very high bar. I don't have a DYK credit to donate. 22:57, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
I am sorry you think I am being overly harsh, but I think it is plain sloppy not including proper attribution, and the with the example above I think the fact that the same author is responsible for two cited sources is relevant. I initially reviewed the article because I thought the subject was interesting and worthy of some time in the main page sun. But I too have found it frustrating, I have conducted two complete reviews and even then my findings have not been acted upon, and further still there has been a stunningly consistent lack of attention to detail. I will now do some editing of the article to bring it up to a standard I believe is required. Cavalryman (talk) 01:28, 8 October 2021 (UTC).[]
Thanks for your edits on the article. It reads better and I can see you have cleaned up the sources. I will do a QPQ this weekend, so we can get this over the line.PMCH2 (talk) 12:41, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Many thanks. If you cannot I will try to do one. I also intend to email World Archery to see if we can get a photo. Regards, Cavalryman (talk) 13:13, 10 October 2021 (UTC).[]

I have reviewed Kennin Rebellion for DYK. Thanks for chasing down a photo - that would be great.PMCH2 (talk) 14:03, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Many thanks. Re photo I have been had correspondence with World Archery and they have said we can use the 1961 photo in this article, I am just trying to get them to confirm what license they are happy to release it under.
Given I am now responsible for over 70% of the text [2], should a fresh reviewer have a look at this? Cavalryman (talk) 22:10, 12 October 2021 (UTC).[]
After some initial positive correspondence World Archery not responded about licenses for almost a week. I will send one more email but am not holding my breath that a photo will be released. Cavalryman (talk) 22:29, 17 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Articles created/expanded on September 3Edit

La Folia Barockorchester

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 10:51, 3 September 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Comment (not a review): Gerda Arendt the article says, without a reference, that LFBO is named after La Folia, which redirects to a musical theme, but https://www.lafoliabarockorchester.net/lfbo-1 refers to a term “la folia” not the musical theme. TSventon (talk) 11:19, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[]
    The two go together, I had no time to clarify, and won't until next week, sorry. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:46, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[]
    TSventon: La Folia means not only the theme but the compositions based on it, described by ref Düren (now used) as "eine Form, die wildes und kühnes Spiel mit großer Freiheit zur Kreativität erlaubt" - a form that permits wild and bold play with great freedom to creativity, "play" not meaning instrumental playing but the playful music variation. Please check if it's now clear enough. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:56, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[]
    Gerda Arendt: thank you, that is helpful, I see you have been busy over the last two weeks. TSventon (talk) 09:08, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[]
    Thank you for understanding. I reviewed now Template:Did you know nominations/Karnabo. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:48, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  •   Full review needed now that QPQ has been supplied. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:34, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  •   Might be a tad over seven days, but I think that's fine. Long enough, neutral, and mostly sourced to the best of my understanding. I made a slight copyedit to the lead. I think the hook needs tweaking, as the meaning is a bit unclear to those who do not understand the various nouns involved. (For example, I suggest dropping "from Dresden".) Gerda, could you tell me what exactly the 'hooky' bit is? Is it the broadcasting from an Abbey? CMD (talk) 11:31, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[]
    I don't want to drop Dresden, as the focus on music from the Dresden court is what they stand for. It's remarkable but perhaps not hooky - I'm known not to care much about hookiness - that not only they appeared at that notable festival, but also were broadcast, and then even by several stations. - I commented out the uncited soloists before I saw your note. They are not critical to the article. I have no time to dig up refs for them right now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:37, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[]
    To answer the question in an edit summary: typically such lists (which I dislike, but I just translated) go by alphabet, but here, I had two different references, so went by alphabet within reference. It would be better to say precisely who performed which music, but back to no time ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:51, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[]
    Thanks Gerda, I think that does not come through right now. Hookiness should convey what is remarkable. The "from Dresden", "at the Rheingau", and "from Eberbach" form a somewhat confusing string for a non-German speaker. Is there a way to rearrange the elements? CMD (talk) 14:48, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[]
    I said before I don't care about hookiness. Compromise:
    ALT1: ... that La Folia Barockorchester from Dresden performed at Eberbach Abbey in a broadcast concert of the 2021 Rheingau Musik Festival?
    Defending: Dresden may be for many readers the first word they know, because La Folia is Italian/Spanish and Barockorchester is German. I don't like the name of the ensemble but what can we do? Eberbach Abbey is widely known beyond classical music as a World Heritage Site, and as the location of the film The Name of the Rose. The festival is also widely known, and those who don't know can learn something new. Any 2021 performance is a gift, hooky or not. It was the first with singing after the lockdown but I wouldn't know where to put that in the limited space. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:17, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[]
    This should not be a search for a compromise, but a solution. If Dresden is to be included, why not ... that the Dresden-based La Folia Barockorchester...? That eliminates one from/at X, while also indicating what Dresden means. Shifting 2021 is a good idea, let's keep that shifted 2021, as it breaks up another from/at X. With both of those variations, I think either ALT0 or ALT1 would work much better. CMD (talk) 16:21, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[]
    I try to avoid links before the bold hook but as you wish. Could you please word a version that would please you? You can still approve as long no new facts are involved. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:24, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[]

Sorry for the delay. CMD (talk) 15:35, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[]

Of the two, I prefer ALT2. Isn't a broadcast concert one without audience? (English isn't my first language.) Both have Dresden before the bolded link. but I'm sort of tired ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:47, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  I'm afraid my musical knowledge lies mostly within the realm of private practice and appreciation. No issues with a promoter tweaking Dresden, broadcast concert, or any other part of any of the hooks. Noting author preference for AL2. CMD (talk) 15:54, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  •   @Gerda Arendt: CMD's CN tag should be addressed before this hook is promoted. 21:36, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[]
In my opinion, a concert being broadcast happens all the time and is not that interesting, and adding "by several stations" to me indicates that its broadcast was limited, since "several" is indeterminate but not very many, and could be as little as two. So I've struck the hooks that use that particular phrase. May I suggest that a much more interesting hook would be the anonymous works that survived multiple fires, that (according to source 2) La Folia "deliberately didn't even try to find out the authors of the individual pieces" (Google translate of part of the Geisler quote). That "didn't even try" fact would need to be added to the article, if it fits a hook, but the multiple fires fact might be sufficient even without it. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:21, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[]
Thank you, both. I added refs for the recordings and for that intentional leaving anonymous. However, I prefer to say what I saw/heard and found great. I added also a ref for the "Radiofestival", one program of the public radio cultural stations in Germany (many, several - not sure). It wasn't just a radio concert, but one of the selected few from this years summer festivals, beginning with the opening (at the same location) as the President's charity concert, - we just don't have room for all that in a hook. The teaser for the concert was Anna Prohaska whom I had come to hear, and the ensemble was a discovery on top! In case we want to go the same way (but it's a bit unfair to the other three singers):
ALT4: ... that soprano Anna Prohaska and La Folia Barockorchester performed at Eberbach Abbey for the 2021 Rheingau Musik Festival and the ARD Radiofestival? - We could also go quirky and contrast the title "Glorious Revolution" with the sacred building. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:56, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[]
@BlueMoonset:, I'll promote once you sign off. theleekycauldron (talkcontribs) (they/them) 06:41, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@BlueMoonset what's happening with this nom? theleekycauldron (talkcontribs) (they/them) 05:18, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[]

theleekycauldron, I pointed out issues with the existing (approved) hooks; I hadn't volunteered to review any new hooks. Perhaps you should do that, and let some one else promote. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:07, 15 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  •   My reviewing an article usually means that it takes a week or so longer to get promoted, and this nom's been hanging for a while. I'll put out a call for a new reviewer to check the new hooks and verify that the cn tag has been addressed at WT:DYK and relist this nom. theleekycauldron (talkcontribs) (they/them) 00:10, 15 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  •   I haven't had a chance to take a look at the article yet and see if the citation issues have been addressed, but I have to agree with BlueMoonset that the currently proposed hooks aren't broadly interesting, especially when other potentially much more interesting angles (such as the fire and the author anonymity) could be used here. I've struck ALT3 and ALT4 as they do not address at all the issues that were raised by BlueMoonset. Inviting Theleekycauldron and Chipmunkdavis to suggest hooks on either the fire or anonymity angles and we'll see where we can go from here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:22, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on September 13Edit

Hogwarts School of Prayer and Miracles

Created by BuySomeApples (talk). Self-nominated at 09:15, 13 September 2021 (UTC).[]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
  • Other problems:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Article is new enough, long enough, well-sourced (it has a citation to Inquisitor, a generally unreliable source but I'll let that slide as it seems to just be for opinion.), neutral and plagiarism-free. However, I have a few issues with the hooks though they are both interesting. Firstly, the article title should be in italics, no? Regarding ALT0, I do not see replacing Magic with... however you spell it (I've never heard it before.) mentioned in the article, and the fan fiction did not rewrite the series, no? With ALT1, "Christian friendly" and its negative reception for its plot does not seem to be mentioned in the article. But overall, the hooks are quite silly.   QPQ has been done. Pamzeis (talk) Ping me in replies! 12:51, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[]

  • Hi @Pamzeis: thanks for reviewing this one so quickly! Evangelicalism is a type of Christianity, it's kinda the really conservative American type. The Wikipedia page it links to is really long, but I don't know how to boil it down. All of the sources link the fanfiction to Christianity, but a lot of the sources like Snopes, The Daily Dot and Religion News Service say Evangelicalism in particular (I think that's important because not all Christians believe the same things).
  • Re: ALT0 I altered the hook a bit to say "prayer and Evangelical morality". The sources say "Evangelical stay-at-home mom named Grace Ann has taken it upon herself to remove all the witchcraft devil-worship from Harry Potter and replace it with a more Christian-friendly message",[12] "All the magic in the story is replaced with “prayer,” where the characters kneel and ask God for things, which will suddenly appear, as if by, you know, magic",[13] and "her mission to re-write the Harry Potter books to be a Christian morality tale."[14] I removed Inquisitr from the article and hook citations.
  • The fan fiction is described as "rewriting" the original series in many of the sources because it retells the book's story in a different way. It doesn't change the actual Harry Potter story, but it is still a revision of it.
  • Re: ALT0 The negative reception was mentioned in the "Reception and analysis" section, it mentioned that it garnered an almost universally negative reaction from critics and has more specific criticisms from sources like was critical of the writing, grammar and plot, and referencing the author's stated purpose of making a family friendly, Christian take on Harry Potter.
  • I edited the introduction and "Reception" section now to be more specific now and include all the info you mentioned. The introduction now reads "The fan fiction rewrites the Harry Potter series to replace magic with prayer, and emphasize moral lessons rooted in Evangelicalism." and the "Reception" section opens with "The fanfiction went viral in 2014, and garnered an almost universally negative reaction from critics for its plot, writing and message." and includes "Madeleine Davies of Jezebel criticized the author's "Christian-friendly" plot". Let me know if there's anything else! BuySomeApples (talk) 21:05, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  •   ALT0b and ALT1 are fine by me! Pamzeis (talk) 01:01, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • @BuySomeApples: I'm not seeing a citation for ALT0b, because it's only written in the lead—would there be a place in the body where it can be inserted and cited, or do you want to just cite in the lead? theleekycauldron (talkcontribs) (they/them) 05:57, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • @Pamzeis:   I know I'm being a stickler about this, because it's just the synopsis of the article, but I want to promote ALT0b but I'm not seeing a citation in the article. BuySomeApples appears to be AWOL, any way this could be fixed? theleekycauldron (talkcontribs) (they/them) 05:20, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[]

  I've added a cite but the article doesn't mention "Christian morality" so I've struck it and added an alt. Now, we just need someone to review it. Pamzeis (talk) 06:58, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on September 14Edit

SpaceX Starship

 
Tile inspection on Starship
  • ... that the flaps of SpaceX's Starship spacecraft do not generate lift but instead induce drag to control the spacecraft's descent? Source: "The vehicle therefore uses four steel landing flaps, positioned near the front and rear of the vehicle, to control its descent. This is much like a skydiver uses their arms and legs to control a free-fall. 'It's quite different from anything else ... we're doing a controlled fall,' Elon Musk said during a Starship update in 2019. 'You're trying to create drag rather than lift - it's really the opposite of an aircraft.'" [15]
    • ALT1:... that the design of launch towers' arms allows them to "catch" and recover (retrieve?) the Super Heavy booster of SpaceX's Starship system? Source 1: "[...] SpaceX’s first custom-built ‘launch tower’ is a sort of backbone or anchor point for several massive, mechanical arms that will accomplish the actual tasks of servicing – and, perhaps, catching – Starships and Super Heavy boosters." [16] Source 2: "One month after SpaceX stacked Starship’s South Texas ‘launch tower’ to its full height, the company has installed the first arm on what amounts to the backbone of 'Mechazilla.'" [17]
    • ALT2: ... that SpaceX's Starship rocket has twice the lift capacity of the Saturn V? If Starship then launched as an expendable, payload would be ~250 tons. What isn’t obvious from this chart is that Starship/Super Heavy is much denser than Saturn V. [18]

Improved to Good Article status by CactiStaccingCrane (talk). Self-nominated at 07:48, 14 September 2021 (UTC).[]

  •   The hooks look interesting enough, though I will suggest slight paraphrasing for each.
    • ALT3: ... that the flaps of SpaceX's Starship spacecraft do not generate lift but instead induce drag to control the spacecraft's descent
    • ALT1b: ... that the design of launch towers' arms allows them to "catch" and recover (retrieve?) the Super Heavy booster of SpaceX's Starship system? 
No problems for ATL2.
Rectify these. Will leave to the promoters to decide which of the hooks are better.--ZKang123 (talk) 12:01, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[]
Alt1 is a completely new design that has never been tested in any way and that is likely to change a lot in the future based on test results. I would avoid that for now. --mfb (talk) 16:23, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[]
@ZKang123: I like that you suggested alts! I'm not seeing that a full review has been done, so I couldn't promote just yet. theleekycauldron (talkcontribs) (they/them) 00:19, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[]
Apologies. Was busy and missed out this review. Looks good to go I guess.   --ZKang123 (talk) 00:25, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[]
@ZKang123: to be clear, the article is new enough, long enough, plagiarism free, etc.? theleekycauldron (talkcontribs) (they/them) 01:31, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[]
It has just recently attainer GA when it was nominated at the time, so its passable.--ZKang123 (talk) 01:33, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • ZKang123, nominations for DYK have to meet a certain number of requirements before approval, and while you might have checked, I can't see that that's been verified in the nom page. You might want to reference the reviewing guide in taking a full review. Let me know when you've finished that (i also find it helpful to use the reviewer's template), and sorry for the holdup! theleekycauldron (talkcontribs) (they/them) 05:15, 2 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  a full review is needed for this nomination, unfortunately. theleekycauldron (talkcontribs) (they/them) 06:46, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • The ALTs seem a little in the weeds to me. The topic is naturally interesting because it's in the news, so I'd consider going with something simpler, like:
    ALT4 ...that SpaceX's reusable Starship launch vehicle has twice the thrust as the Apollo Program's Saturn V?
    ALT5 ...that SpaceX's reusable Starship launch vehicle will carry more than 10 million pounds (4.5 kt) of propellant?
Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}}talk 07:54, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[]
    this might have gotten moved back for some reason theleekycauldron (talkcontribs) (they/them) 23:20, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on September 16Edit

Japan and the Holocaust

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 11:41, 16 September 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Not sure this hook works, if it had no connection whatsoever no article could be written about it. Phrasing in the article is to be clearer, but I expect there are better hooks available. (t · c) buidhe 14:21, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • I have to oppose the hook as I think it's misleading. It's your nomination, so please find a better hook. (t · c) buidhe 02:40, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Contradicted by the article which describes various types of peripheral involvement in "During World War II" section. The article lead states correctly: "did not actively participate in The Holocaust". But I don't see how that's hook worthy, since it does not distinguish Japan from pretty much any country outside of Europe. (t · c) buidhe 02:54, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • @Buidhe: Since Japan was part of the Axis, I think the hook is quite interesting. Not that I mind the other wording, see ALT1 below; anyway, given globalization, virtually any significant country had peripheral involvement in this. Frankly, I prefer the main to ALT1, since it is more clear, but I don't have strong feelings here. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here

ALT1: ... that although Japanese Empire and Nazi Germany were allies during World War II, Japan did not actively participate in The Holocaust? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:02, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[]

  • Alt1 is factually accurate and I suppose it's educational so I'll let someone else who isn't as well read on the topic to decide if it's interesting enough for DYK. (t · c) buidhe 00:40, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Looking at the note, while it makes the article title more clear, the hook ALT1 does not. Can it?--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 21:25, 15 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on September 19Edit

Killing of Lindani Myeni

Created by Ezlev (talk) and FormalDude (talk). Nominated by Ezlev (talk) at 18:27, 19 September 2021 (UTC).[]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  N - ALT0 is not cited inline, and ALT3 does not appear in the article—that should probably be cleared up
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Hi, ezlev! I'm sorry it's taken so long for someone to get to to your review—this nomination has quite a few issues, but I'm glad someone took the time to cover this topic; it's super important! Let me know when we're ready to move forward. Great work so far, just a bit more! theleekycauldron (talkcontribs) (they/them) 00:07, 15 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Thanks for the review, Theleekycauldron. I expected the article to remain somewhat stable for a while when I submitted it, but it's in flux now, as you likely noticed during your review – I hope it'll be in shape for DYK in the near future! ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 01:08, 15 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on September 20Edit

Raytheon Anschütz

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self-nominated at 13:08, 20 September 2021 (UTC).[]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Good article, but it really needs more and better sources. An important invention like this must be described in other reliable secondary and tertiary sources. Thanks. -- P 1 9 9   18:43, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@P199: Fixed. Also ALT1:

Articles created/expanded on September 21Edit

Osman Çakmak

  • ... that Osman Çakmak, a former professional footballer, who got amputated, enjoyed European Amputee Football Championship titles as player in 2017 and as manager in 2021 with the Turkey national team? Source: "Zeytinburnuspor formasıyla profesyonelliğe ilk adımını atan Osman Çakmak", "... sol bacağını diz altından kaybederek" (in Turkish) [21], "2017 Avrupa Ampute Futbol Federasyonu (EAFF) Avrupa Şampiyonası'nda şampiyon olan.." (in Turkish) [22], "Ampute Milli Takımı, finalinde İspanya'yı 6-0 mağlup ederek üst üste ikinci kez Avrupa Şampiyonu olurken Teknik Direktör Osman Çakmak açıklamalar yaptı..." (in Turkish) [23]

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 15:17, 28 September 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Comment The phrase "who got amputated" is odd. It's very strange to say "got amputated" without specifying which body part was amputated. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:56, 29 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • @Dodger67: Thank you for your comment. How about the following? CeeGee 15:41, 29 September 2021 (UTC)[]
At 191 characters, the hook is pretty long and complicated. Perhaps shortened it a bit? The hook seems to have some redundant parts. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:08, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • @Narutolovehinata5: Hooks can be as long as up to 200 chars. There must be no problem as you can know. I'd appreciate if you can form a hook as you like. CeeGee 11:30, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  I am citing WP:DYKHOOK here: While 200 is a hard limit, hooks near or at this limit may still be rejected at the discretion of reviewers and administrators. (emphasis mine) Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:51, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Perhaps this can work? ALT2 ... that Osman Çakmak won the European Amputee Football Championship as player in 2017 and as manager in 2021 after a leg amputation? I'm not completely happy with this though as the hook mentions amputation twice (and this was also one of my issues with ALT1). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:52, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Thank you CeeGee for the proposal. It does bother me a bit though that we have articles for the yearly iterations but not for the tournament as a whole; perhaps one can be created so that it can be added to the nomination as well? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:46, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@CeeGee: Thoughts on ALT3? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:55, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Sorry! Can you make it a little bit more clear? CeeGee 10:23, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@CeeGee: Would you be able to write an article for the European Amputee Football Championship and add it as a second bolded link for ALT3? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:45, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • An article with this title was moved or deleted previously. I don't why? I can try it later on because I am working on an article now. . However, I do not think that this is necessary for the approval of this nomination. CeeGee 11:11, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • My impression is that you are trying to make up excuses to prevent or delay the approval. CeeGee 10:02, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[]
I have no idea where that impression came from. It was merely a suggestion, and the hook and nomination can be approved even without said article being created. I just found it strange that there were articles for the yearly iterations and not one for the tournament as a whole and was wondering if that could be addressed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:23, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • @CeeGee:, Narutolovehinata5 is trying to help you make your nomination the best it can be—I'd give them the benefit of the doubt. As far as I can see, the article hasn't been checked anyways, so the delay is nominal, really. theleekycauldron (talkcontribs) (they/them) 02:43, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on September 22Edit

Castle Recording Laboratory

  • ... that Castle Recording Laboratory, Nashville's first commercial recording studio, was established in a repurposed hotel banquet room? Source: "... in 1947, with a $1,000 loan from Third National Bank to convert a banquet room on the second floor of the Hotel Tulane at 206 8th Avenue North into a studio equipped with their mixing console, an Ampex Model 200 tape recorder, and a Scully lathe, establishing the first commercial recording space in Nashville."

Created by Synthfiend (talk). Self-nominated at 15:05, 24 September 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Comments by Tbhotch
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
  • Other problems:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   @Synthfiend: Nominated on time, long enough and no copyright issues according to Earwig. QPQ unrequired (first nomination). Most of it is sourced and is present on the sources, but the phrase "helping earn Nashville the nickname "Music City U.S.A."" sounds like original research and it should be reworded to adjust to what multiple sources say: it is the most important Nashville studio at the time. (CC) Tbhotch 20:40, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on September 24Edit

Economy of Sarawak

Created/expanded by Cerevisae (talk). Self-nominated at 08:59, 29 September 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Thanks for your suggestion. Table moved to sandbox for further expansion. Cerevisae (talk) 13:35, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[]

References

  1. ^ Chiou Sia, Tan (2015). Forecasting the gross domestic product (GDP) of Sarawak (PDF). Sarawak: Faculty of Economics and Business University Malaysia Sarawak. pp. 6–7. Archived from the original (PDF) on 29 September 2021. Retrieved 29 September 2021.
  2. ^ "Gross Domestic Product (GDP) By State 2020". Department of Statistics Malaysia. Archived from the original on 1 July 2021. Retrieved 22 September 2021.
  3. ^ Fumitaka, Furuoka (2014). "Economic Development in Sarawak, Malaysia: An overview" (PDF). Munich Personal RePEc Archive. University of Malaya: 2–3. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2021-06-02. Retrieved 22 September 2021.

Articles created/expanded on September 26Edit

The Gaslight Effect

  • ... that Robin Stern's book The Gaslight Effect (2007) describes gaslighting as an epidemic?
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Whispyhistory (talk) and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Whispyhistory (talk) at 13:25, 3 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Comment (not a review). Of the 10 sources in the article, only one (the J. Psychohistory review) appears to be both in-depth and directly about the book. Perhaps because of this, it has been tagged for notability, neutrality, and additional citations. These issues should be addressed (not merely hidden by removing the cleanup banners) before this can be DYK. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:25, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Lismore Crozier

 
The Lismore Crozier, National Museum of Ireland
  • ... that the 12th-century Lismore Crozier was rediscovered along with the 15th-century Book of Lismore, in a walled-up doorway in Lismore Castle, Ireland? Source: Moss, Rachel. Medieval c. 400—c. 1600: Art and Architecture of Ireland. New Haven, CT: Yale University Press, 2014. p. 37. ISBN 978-0-3001-7919-4
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
  • Reviewed: to follow
  • Created by Ceoil (talk). Self-nominated at 22:28, 2 October 2021 (UTC).[]
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  N - I have AGFed on the hook source, but it looks like the book you cited in the nom (Moss 2014) is the not the same as the book cited in the article (O'Neill 2014). Do they both support the statement? Also, and this is a very minor point, the article right now says the crozier was discovered in a "concealed" doorway—I take it doorways can't really be concealed otherwise than by walls, so "walled-up" and "concealed" are likely synonymous, but wanted to confirm on this.
  • Interesting:  Y

Image eligibility:

  • Freely licensed:  N - I am slightly concerned about the picture. This ancient object, and any images of it, is surely in the public domain, as noted in Commons policy (see commons:Template:PD-Art), but the actual source of it is not clear about the provenance. Has NMI posted a picture of the crozier?
  • Used in article:  Y
  • Clear at 100px:  Y

QPQ:  N - Not done
Overall:   In addition to comments above, waiting on QPQ (per nom). AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 15:50, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[]

  • Given that the image gets MP exposure through a different hook, this can only be promoted as a non-picture hook. Thanks. Schwede66 02:01, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Have just uploaded [24] but am travelling so can’t update until later. Ceoil (talk) 13:05, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on September 27Edit

Life on Mars (song)

Moved to mainspace by Zmbro (talk). Self-nominated at 14:56, 27 September 2021 (UTC).[]

  •   I am having trouble finding a move to mainspace in the page history. There's an edit made with that summary that adds a large amount of content, but previous revisions show that the article existed in mainspace for quite some time before that. The only entry in the move log is from 2015. That aside, a 5x expansion is almost present. The prose size of the September 19 revision is 6603 B (1163 words), whereas the current revision is 27 kB (4636 words). This means that 5x would mean further expansion, either to 33kb or 5815 words (the difference being either 6,000 bytes or 1179 words). If expansion is completed I will give a full review. jp×g 07:01, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Alternatively, I notice that the article is currently a GA nominee; if that passes, it'll automatically be eligible for DYK without any further expansion required. jp×g 07:03, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • @JPxG:: it appears that they were working on the article in a sandbox and moved the contents of that to the mainspace article. That doesn't seem to count as a move to mainspace for the purposes of DYK though. eviolite (talk) 13:41, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • I've never done this before so I apologize if I did it wrong. – zmbro (talk) 14:01, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[]

References

  1. ^ Buckley, David (2005) [1999]. Strange Fascination – David Bowie: The Definitive Story. London: Virgin Books. p. 98. ISBN 978-0-75351-002-5.

Roman campaigns in Germania (12 BC – AD 16)

  • ... that the Romans won a series of campaigns against the Germanic tribes following the disaster at Teutoburg, but decided to leave Germany because its land was not considered valuable? Source: Wells (2003), The Battle That Stopped Rome, pp. 206–7

Improved to Good Article status by SpartaN (talk). Self-nominated at 03:34, 29 September 2021 (UTC).[]

General eligibility:

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  N - Source is offline but happy to AGF. However, in the article the statement “they considered German lands too poor for annexation” is sourced to p.204 of Wells. pp.206-7 referred to above is used to support that they that “it was too costly in economic and military resources” to go into in Germany. I guess either way the hook is sourced but could you clarify the exact sourcing of the hook.
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: None required.

Overall:   Interesting thorough article, well-written with good quality sourcing. Earwig shows no issues. Just a minor query around the hook sourcing but otherwise will be good to go. DeCausa (talk) 08:23, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@DeCausa: I found the web link that (for me) shows a preview if you're able to see it: https://books.google.com/books?id=mc30CAAAQBAJ&pg=PA206&lpg=PA206
SpartaN (talk) 10:07, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@SpartaN: Thanks for providing the link. It’s prompted a couple of thoughts for me. Firstly, Wells doesn’t seem to be saying the reason for the withdrawal is definitively known (“… the reasons for these decisions must have lain…”) i.e he’s making an assumption, however well founded. The hook is more definite than Wells is. Secondly, Wells’ emphasis is on the strength of the resistance being behind the reason - the poor value of the territory makes it “not worth it” because of the strength of the resistance. That’s not quite the same as just saying the land wasn’t valuable. (I notice the text you used in the article on this reflects that effort/value ratio issue.) To fix both points would you be prepared to consider an ALT1 which after “…Teutoburg” continues something along the lines of “…likely decided to leave Germany because the military effort was out of proportion to the territory’s value?” although there may need to be some trimming to get it into the 200 character limit. DeCausa (talk) 11:12, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on September 29Edit

Rumbo Recorders

Created by Synthfiend (talk). Self-nominated at 18:14, 5 October 2021 (UTC).[]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: None required.

Overall:   Article is new enough, going live on 29 September. On its initial release it was over 1.8k bytes of text. Not all text is verifiable to a reliable source, including technical information about Studio A, and Studio C. Hook is cited. Hook is interesting enough for random trivia, but nothing that wows me. No images used. Nominator/creator has less than 5 DYKs. Please continue to work on this article. RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 00:36, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Coat of arms of the Football Association

 
Coat of arms of the Football Association
  • ... that the lions supporting the coat of arms of the Football Association (pictured) are half-blue and half-white in imitation of the blue shorts and white shirts worn by the national teams? " The supporters are: On each side a lion party per fess argent and azure [heraldry speak for "divided in half horizontall and coloured silver (ie. white) over blue] charged on the shoulder with a Tudor rose and with the interior hindfoot resting on a football proper. Essentially these are two lions in the colours of the England kit." from page 39 of: Phillips, David Llewelyn (Spring 2015). "Badges and 'Crests':The Twentieth-century Relationship Between Football and Heraldry" (PDF). The Coat of Arms, the Journal of the Heraldry Society. XI part 1 (229): 35–50.
    • ALT1:... that despite being awarded a full heraldric achievement (pictured) in 1979 there is no evidence the Football Association has ever used it? "On 9 January 1979 the Football Association received a second grant, of crest, supporters and a badge ... I can find no evidence that the Football Association has ever made public use of the crest, supporters or badge. Recent correspondence with the F.A. in fact suggests that they are unaware that their coat of arms includes these elements. It also appears that they are at the time of writing unable to locate either the original grant of arms or the second grant of supporters, badge, and crest" from page 39 of: Phillips, David Llewelyn (Spring 2015). "Badges and 'Crests':The Twentieth-century Relationship Between Football and Heraldry" (PDF). The Coat of Arms, the Journal of the Heraldry Society. XI part 1 (229): 35–50.

Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 16:01, 29 September 2021 (UTC).[]

Articles created/expanded on September 30Edit

Digital HiNote

Improved to Good Article status by PhotographyEdits (talk) and DigitalIceAge (talk). Nominated by PhotographyEdits (talk) at 21:09, 7 October 2021 (UTC).[]

 
Digital HiNote Ultra
  • ALT1:... that Digital pulled their HiNote Ultra laptop out of a manila envelope on television nearly 15 years before Apple? Source: "Valleywag, via an anonymous tipster, reports that the "manila envelope" reveal for a small laptop is far from new. DEC, if the tipster's memory serves, used the same wowser technique to show off a HiNote Ultra—almost 15 years ago. This thing looks somewhat ungainly now. But it was, as the ad copy tells us, only an inch thick." (Wired) DigitalIceAge (talk) 01:26, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Above Znoneofthe

Created by Ivanvector (talk). Self-nominated, as alt account PEIsquirrel (talk), at 13:05, 7 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • General eligibility:
  • New Enough:  Y
  • Long Enough:  N - Article clocks in at 1,058 prose characters—the minimum requirement would be 1,500

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
  • Other problems:  N - The name should be bolded, and I feel like the hook could be a little punchier? I've suggested an ALT2.
QPQ: None required.

Overall:   @PEIsquirrel: Hi, welcome to DYK! This nomination will need a bit of work before it's ready to be on the front page, but this is good so far! It's very amusing. theleekycauldron (talkcontribs) (they/them) 18:46, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[]

  • Hi Theleekycauldron, thanks for your review! I am Ivanvector, this is an alt account, and I do have a couple of DYK credits under my main. I wasn't aware there was a minimum length requirement for new articles, I don't think it came up in DYKcheck, but I can flesh it out some. For ALT1, he only ran as a Rhinoceros candidate in the most recent of the elections he's run in. In his first since his name change, he ran as an independent against the leader of the "None of the Above Party", and for several elections after that ran as a candidate for that party, so I'm not sure if we should mention the Rhinoceros Party in the hook. What do you think? Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 16:39, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Greg Dulcich

  • ... that Greg Dulcich is a former walk-on whose first touchdown with UCLA was about three miles (4.8 km) from his high school? Source: "The tight end is just a hard-working former walk-on who earned a scholarship." (Los Angeles Times), "Greg Dulcich’s high school is less than 3 miles from the Rose Bowl. There seemed to be no better place for the St. Francis alumnus’ first UCLA touchdown catch than in front of his hometown crowd." (Los Angeles Daily News)

Created by Bagumba (talk). Self-nominated at 14:40, 6 October 2021 (UTC).[]

In Freundschaft

 
Suzanne Stephens in 1990
  • Reviewed: Gather (film)
  • Comment: The original contains most of what could be said, still omitting that the premiere was played in 1977 on flute, by two women one after the other; ALT1 is shortened to permitted DYK size, but missing a lot. Help welcome. The article was written by Jerome Kohl, and brought to GA is a little tribute for his enormous contributions to Wikipedia.

Improved to Good Article status by Jerome Kohl (talk), Gerda Arendt (talk), and RandomCanadian (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 21:28, 1 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Perhaps the image might be cropped a bit, GRuban? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:34, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[]
 
Suzanne Stephens in 1988
And brightened! However, I think this is actually in 1988, from the description. --GRuban (talk) 19:42, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Thank you, and yes, 1988, - no idea how the other got there. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:57, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[]

  Long enough, good articley enough, only earwig copied text is a quote. A few discography items are unsourced, are they from the general sources in the beginning? The comment is correct regarding the hook. I feel ALT1 misses the crucial "composition for one instrument", without which there is no context. Might I suggest as part of changes that "clarinetist" is dropped, as the article states it was first performed for a flute. Could I ask Gerda Arendt and RandomCanadian to put heads together regarding a way to capture the essence in a pithy manner? CMD (talk) 15:51, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[]

ALT1a:... that In Freundschaft was composed in friendship by Karlheinz Stockhausen, first for the solo clarinet of Suzanne Stephens (pictured), and then adapted to the instruments other friends played?
I tried. I don't think we should omit clarinet, as pictured (and I do hope the article substance justifies appearance of a good image). The flutes premiere was sort of an intimate event. Will check out recordings. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:03, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[]
I added refs now (not formatted yet) to the recordings not in Stockhausen Verlag, but can't help thinking that the recording numbers (comparable to book ISBN numbers) should serve the purpose. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:12, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Out of my wheelhouse I'm afraid. I'll AGF on recording numbers if that is the case. Is there a shorter way to say "composition for one instrument"? CMD (talk) 05:36, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Yes, and I tried, saying "solo clarinet". I added the refs for the recordings, just for next time I'l like to know if I could use the time for something more useful. They were enough for the article since Jerome wrote it, and for the GA reviewer. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:04, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Suggestion:
ALT1b:... that In Freundschaft was composed in friendship by Karlheinz Stockhausen, as a clarinet solo for Suzanne Stephens (pictured), and then adapted to the solo instruments of other friends?
CMD (talk) 11:19, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on October 1Edit

Articles created/expanded on October 3Edit

Elaine Estes

Created by SL93 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:27, 5 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Comment: I hope you don't mind, SL93, I've suggested an ALT1. Feel free to strikethrough if it you don't want it :) theleekycauldron (talkcontribs) (they/them) 18:37, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[]
General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  ?
  • Interesting:  ?
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   One sentence needs to be cleaned up, and someone else has to approve the hook—but you're almost there. Nice work! theleekycauldron (talkcontribs) (they/them) 02:17, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Theleekycauldron I fixed the sentence. SL93 (talk) 21:54, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]
aight, we should be good on that, then. theleekycauldron (talkcontribs) (they/them) 22:01, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Say You to Yo Asobi

  • ... that the Japanese variety show Say You to Yo Asobi collaborated with the Japan Racing Association and to feature the race horse Takarazuka Kinen?Source: Oricon (article): 番組と連動した『JRA×「声優と夜あそび 2021」宝塚記念チャレンジ』サイトでは、木曜日、金曜日のMC陣が、宝塚記念を予想した動画を特別公開。 [On the "JRA x Say You to Yo Asobi 2021 "Takarazuka Kinen Challenge" website linked to the program, the MC team on Thursday and Friday will release a special video with their predictions on Takarazuka Kinen.]

Created by Lullabying (talk). Self-nominated at 22:40, 3 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Articles created/expanded on October 4Edit

Heterotermes aureus

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 06:02, 12 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Ustaše Youth

Moved to mainspace by OakMapping (talk). Self-nominated at 20:42, 9 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Articles created/expanded on October 5Edit

Celestial Navigation (The West Wing)

Converted from a redirect by Theleekycauldron (talk). Self-nominated at 22:00, 5 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Pushbacks in Greece

Created by Buidhe (talk). Self-nominated at 11:39, 5 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Pushback (migration)

Created by Buidhe (talk). Self-nominated at 11:38, 5 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Bonifasius Belawan Geh

Created by Nyanardsan (talk). Self-nominated at 11:23, 5 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Personally, I'd go for ALT1. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 01:52, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[]

IBM PCradio

  • ... that the IBM PCradio could receive faxes twice as fast as it could receive standard cellular data? Source: "4,800 bits per second (bps) in wireless communications and ... a 9,600-bps facsimile." 3
    • ALT1:... that IBM spent $50 million to develop the PCradio and expected to sell 100,000 units, but ended up selling just under 10,000? Source: "IBM spent an estimated $50 million to develop the PCradio, but it sold fewer than 10,000 of them, according to En Route Technology, a computer trade publication." 1
  • Reviewed: pending

Created by DigitalIceAge (talk). Self-nominated at 09:10, 5 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Zeb Noland

Created by PCN02WPS (talk). Self-nominated at 06:00, 5 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Articles created/expanded on October 6Edit

Susan Chitty

  • Comment: Review will done shortly.

Created by Meanderingbartender (talk). Self-nominated at 08:58, 13 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Upper Thomson MRT station

Improved to Good Article status by ZKang123 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:20, 13 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Topre

 
Topre switch
  • ... that the young engineer behind Topre's conical-spring capacitive keyboard switch was inspired by mosquito coil? Source: "Then came a breakthrough. A young engineer, inspired by a "katori senko," a coiled spiral strip that, when lighted, wards off mosquitoes, suggested a similar design: The keyboard plunger would be joined to the printed circuit board by a conical spiral beneath each key. 'We let him make a prototype," recalls Mr. Miwa. "We found it would work.'" (Tharp, Mike (September 23, 1985). "Success Story: One Man from Japan Gains U.S. Beachhead for His Tokyo Firm". The Wall Street Journal. ProQuest 397910536)
    • ALT1:... that a reviewer called Topre's Realforce the "Aston Martin One-77 of the keyboard world"? Source: "We test drive the Aston Martin One-77 of the keyboard world" (Hayward, David (March 5, 2014). "Topre Realforce 88UB". Micro Mart. ProQuest 1517932885)
  • Reviewed: gotta do

Created by DigitalIceAge (talk). Self-nominated at 22:43, 11 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Courts of Ontario

Moved to mainspace by AleatoryPonderings (talk). Self-nominated at 16:36, 7 October 2021 (UTC).[]

The Incredible Hulk: The Pantheon Saga

Improved to Good Article status by Cat's Tuxedo (talk). Self-nominated at 15:34, 6 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Gelae donut

  • ... that a Gelae donut has large, protruding eyes? Source: "eyes large, rounded, protruding" [[26]]
  • Comment: Another hook which is interesting solely because of a pun in the scientific name.

Created by AryKun (talk). Self-nominated at 06:38, 6 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  •   No article linked and wrong format on the nomination, please read WP:DYK first to understand what a DYK is for and how it is formatted. Thank you. Nyanardsan (talk) 08:13, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Sorry, was in a hurry when I listed this. I actually have gotten four DYK's approved already, I just missed the fact that I didn't format this properly. And for the QPQ, I did review this, but can't figure out where to list it. AryKun (talk) 10:43, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[]
ALT1: ... that the Gelae donut is in the same genus as the Gelae fish, Gelae baen, and Gelae rol?

Articles created/expanded on October 7Edit

The End of Illa

 
José Moselli, author of the 1925 French science fiction novella The End of Illa
  • ... that according to science fiction essayist Jacques Van Herp, the novella The End of Illa (author pictured) sounded the temporary death knell of French science fiction? Quote from article: "In 1994, in a postscript written during the reissuing of the work by the Grama publisher, the science fiction essayist Jacques Van Herp argues that this novel was the origin of the temporary decline of French science fiction, on the grounds that it was suspected by the Amiens tribunal of perverting the youth.[6] Even though this hypothesis is contested[3]--or at least taken with precaution--it testifies to the progressive disappearance of stories of scientific imagination starting from the 1930s[49], notably through the practice of self-censorship by authors.[6]" [6] is a book, but source [3] is a magazine article available online and confirms that Jacques van Herp made this claim.
    • ALT1: ... that according to science fiction writer Philippe Curval, the 1925 French science fiction novella The End of Illa (author pictured) was prophetic of the horrors of the Third Reich? Quote from article: "According to Philippe Curval, the 1925 novel accomplishes the feat of anticipating, twenty years in advance, the horrors instigated by the Third Reich.[3]", where [3] is available online

Created by Bowlhover (talk). Self-nominated at 06:26, 12 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Donald McGuire (Jesuit)

Created by Polska jest Najważniejsza (talk). Nominated by DeCausa (talk) at 00:13, 10 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Janet Wilmshurst

Created by DrThneed (talk). Self-nominated at 19:06, 7 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Note October 12th is Ada Lovelace Day, would be good to have a woman in STEM on the front page (but might be a bit late for this one!). DrThneed (talk) 19:34, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[]
General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
  • Other problems:  N - The hook reuses the language without quotation, it would either have to be rephrased or quoted somehow. Also, I've suggested a cheeky (pun intended) hook that could be used for April Fools' day, if you'd like.
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   @DrThneed: We're almost there! Nice work on the article—just have to clear a few things up. theleekycauldron (talkcontribs) (they/them) 18:24, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Theleekycauldron, Thanks for the ALT hook. I hadn't thought of it for April Fool's Day, I have no objections to it - do I need to repost the template in the special holding area for that? And yes I'll take a look another look at the article to make it less CV like (we're having a women in STEM editathon on Tues so I will do it then). Thanks! DrThneed (talk) 23:26, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@DrThneed: not at all! I'll move the nom to the AFD area after I approve it. Sounds like a plan, let me know! theleekycauldron (talkcontribs) (they/them) 23:50, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on October 8Edit

Guillaume Franc

  • ... that Guillaume Franc created melodies for metric psalms by the reformer John Calvin which are still are still in use in the 21st century? Source: [31]
  • Reviewed: to come

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 19:02, 15 October 2021 (UTC).[]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  N - ? “metric psalms” is rather technical language. And not clear that Calvin wrote the lyrics…? Maybe “melodies adapted to the psalms of John Calvin’s Church of Geneva,” similar to what is used in the article?
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Solid new article, good to go with a minor tweak of the hook, but no Qpq listed Montanabw(talk) 18:54, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Thank you for looking into it. I'm sorry, I nominated in a bit of a rush for fear to be late. The first translator was LouisAlain who was sadly banned afterwards. He says he isn't interested in credits, and I believe him. How is this:
ALT1: ... that melodies by Guillaume Franc to French psalms published in Geneva in 1542 are still in use in the 21st century?
I reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Climate change in Malaysia. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:20, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[]
I like that better, but perhaps a wee bit of grammatical tweaking. How about something like, “Psalms in French, set to music by Guillaume Franc and published in Geneva in 1542 are still in use in the 21st century?” Maybe that’s a bit of a run-on sentence, but the psalms aren’t themselves French, just the translation…Montanabw(talk) 07:09, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Thank you for the offer but that would not be topic of the article. About the French psalms by Calvin, I know nothing. Franc composed melodies for them, and these melodies are in use with hymns in German, some with modern texts. How is this:
ALT1a: ... that melodies by Guillaume Franc, composed to French psalms published in Geneva in 1542, are still in use in the 21st century?
It would be easy to link to the famous Genevan Psalter, but unfortunately that was published later, and it's less clear how many melodies there were still by Franc. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:55, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Boost Drinks

  • ... that Boost Drinks was originally known as Blast UK Limited? Source: 1
    • ALT1: ... that Boost Drinks sold a limited edition grape and cherry flavour known as Cosmic Glow? Source: 2
    • ALT2: ... that Boost Drinks is the official energy drinks partner of Leeds United? Source: 3

5x expanded by Sahaib3005 (talk). Self-nominated at 13:59, 14 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Reply Corporation

  • ... that Reply Corporation went from competing against IBM with clones of the PS/2 to selling upgrade motherboards for them? Source: "In October 1992 the company laid off 40 of its 100 employees and set in place an entirely new strategy. Petracca went to his customers to ask how Reply should reinvent itself. After conducting an elaborate survey of the company's customer base, in January 1993 Reply successfully introduced motherboards and upgrades for the PS/2 installed base, and the company again closed the year with revenues of $37 million" (Ehrenfeld 1995, p. 72.)
    • ALT1:... that Reply Corporation was the first computer manufacturer to offer x86 silicon manufactured by IBM? "IBM Corp. has signed its first OEM agreement for its 386SLC and 486SLC processors with Reply Corp., which has agreed to start carrying boards with IBM's modified chips. Reply expects to start shipping a 386SLC-based system by the end of this month ..." (Quinlan 1989a)
  • Reviewed: I.O.U.

Created by DigitalIceAge (talk). Self-nominated at 01:26, 12 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Lum v. Rice

ALT1: ... that a brief in Lum v. Rice was so badly written that Justice Louis Brandeis asked Felix Frankfurter to find a lawyer the Supreme Court could appoint to argue the Lums' case? "From inside the sparsity of his home, Brandeis pored over the brief ... The entirety of its twenty-three pages was a disaster ... Upon close inspection, it would seem as if the lawyer was defending the very decision he was assigned to appeal ... Brandeis wrote to Felix Frankfurter, founder of the American Civil Liberties Union, to see if the Chinese plaintiffs could obtain better representation". Same source as above, pp. 134–35

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Self-nominated at 00:49, 11 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Articles created/expanded on October 9Edit

Mattea Conforti

Moved to mainspace by Pamzeis (talk) and S0091 (talk). Nominated by Pamzeis (talk) at 05:10, 18 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Crime in Latvia

Created by TootsieRollsAddict (talk). Self-nominated at 06:51, 10 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Corsi-Rosenthal Box

 
Corsi-Rosenthal Box

Created by Festucarubra (talk) and GorillaWarfare (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 21:57, 9 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Added ALT1. The wildfire thing is perhaps a bit misleading, since that was more used to validate that it could remove COVID-19 particles; it wasn't really designed for that purpose so much as it's similar to something else that was used for wildfires. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 23:39, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • That is a fair point - reviewers take note. Same source can apply. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:27, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on October 10Edit

Joe Youssefi

  • ... that Iranian-American aerospace engineer Joe Youssefi was posthumously awarded a gold medal for his collection of Persian stamps?
    • ALT1:... that ...?
  • Reviewed: To be done

Created by Philafrenzy (talk). Self-nominated at 21:38, 17 October 2021 (UTC).[]

The Man Who Died Twice (novel)

  • Comment: Noting that I've highlighted Osman's authorship in all the hooks due to a hope that his celebrity will lead to more interest in the book's page.

Moved to mainspace by Sdrqaz (talk). Self-nominated at 00:16, 11 October 2021 (UTC).[]

This is just a comment, not a full review. I think ALT1 and 4 are misleading. The full quote from the source is It sold 114,202 copies in its first three days on sale last week (including pre-orders), according to Nielsen BookScan – a performance which the sales monitor said made it one of the fastest-selling novels since it began to track sales in the late 1990s. So it's one of the fastest-selling novels since the records of one particular service began in the 90s... the current phrasing seems to imply by omission that it's one of the best-selling novels in literary history. Spicy (talk) 04:57, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[]
(Slightly surprised by how quick a comment came, given how my other nomination has languished ...) Spicy, I'm fine with a change from "best-selling" to "fastest-selling". As for the thing about Nielsen, it appears that it is considered an authoritative source for these things (rather like its sister company's Nielsen ratings in America). If we use the used by others standard, they've been used by The Guardian (obviously), the BBC, The Telegraph, The Times, and were called the "official book sales monitor" by The Guardian and The Huffington Post and has been widely accepted for years in the industry: it's not just another provider (perhaps akin to Gallup polls or Ann Selzer in American polling). I don't think I quoted The Guardian out of context, given it was verbatim from the text (they qualified the statistic later on in the article). Apparently this use of hard statistics when calculating book sales is a relatively recent phenomenon, strangely enough. It may be that as peculiar as the statistic is, it's an accurate one. Sdrqaz (talk) 14:22, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[]
I have struck all hooks that use the term "best-selling novels since records began" because it's so far from true: the source is discussing first week sales in the UK (including preorders), while "best-selling", as Spicy notes, has to be assumed to be total sales ever without further context. The hooks as written are misleading and would have been pulled if promoted, so better to strike them now. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:20, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Also, thinking about it, the final four Harry Potter novels all sold millions of copies their first day on sale, so Nielsen is clearly on very shaky ground. Any kind of selling-related hook is going to need a better source with better context. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:37, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[]
If it'll prevent a thread at ERRORS (I had that joyous experience for shadow docket) I'll respect the decision. I've provided ALT4a and ALT4b in an attempt to salvage the underlying fact behind ALT4, but the other hooks are probably stronger. Sdrqaz (talk) 07:39, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Archon of Pella

5x expanded by MRichards01 (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 04:16, 10 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Current nominationsEdit

Articles created/expanded on October 11Edit

Grant Morgan (American football)

Created by PCN02WPS (talk). Self-nominated at 19:37, 11 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Advocate General (European Union)

  • ... that thanks to Advocate General's opinions, one is likely to know the outcome of the court case before the European Court of Justice before it even starts drafting the ruling? Source: "likely to know": see in-article stats on convergence of AG's and Court's opinion; "before it even starts drafting the ruling": [34]

Created by Szmenderowiecki (talk). Self-nominated at 12:09, 11 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Dianxi Xiaoge

  • ... that Dianxi Xiaoge, who grew up in a remote Yunnan mountain without running water, is one of only three Chinese Internet celebrities who have reached international prominence?
    Source:
    1. 诸未静 (2019-12-23). 林涛 (ed.). "网红出海热 谁能成为下一个"李子柒"?" [Internet celebrities are become popular overseas. Who can become the next "Li Ziqi"?]. Southern Metropolis Daily (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2021-10-11. Retrieved 2021-10-11 – via Nanfang Daily.

      The article notes: "NoxInfluencer统计结果显示,真正在海外走红并成功变现的中国区网红只有排名前三位的“办公室小野”“李子柒”和“滇西小哥”。三者的视频均是“美食默片”,长度控制在5至10分钟,出镜者言语不多,借助简单英文字幕即可让全世界网友心领神会。"

      From Google Translate: "NoxInfluencer statistics show that the only Chinese Internet celebrities who have become popular overseas and been successfully realized are only the top three of Ms Yeah, Li Ziqi, and Dianxi Xiaoge. The three vloggers' channels all make "food silent films", the length is controlled at 5 to 10 minutes, and the person who appears on the screen doesn't speak much. With the help of simple English subtitles, netizens all over the world can understand."

    2. 严瑜 (2020-09-03). 胡文卉 (ed.). "访侨乡保山美食博主"滇西小哥":感受朴素的幸福" [Interviewing Baoshan food blogger Dianxi Xiaoge in a region well-known for Chinese expatriates: Feel the simple happiness]. People's Daily (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2021-10-11. Retrieved 2021-10-11.

      The article notes: "“小哥”,说的便是“滇西小哥”。这位全网粉丝量超过1600万的美食博主,制作发布的云南美食视频,单期平均播放量达2000万次左右。这样一位美食博主,竟然生活在如此偏僻的山野之中? ... “滇西小哥”本名董梅华,是个“90后”。算起来,回乡已有4年。“小时候,走出去的愿望特别强烈。... 高考填志愿,一所云南的学校都没选, ... 在“滇西小哥”的记忆里,上小学之前,村里还没通自来水。每天清晨,妈妈都得起个大早,去山脚的那口泉眼挑几大桶水回来。"

      From Google Translate: ""Little Brother" refers to "Dianxi Xiaoge". This food blogger with more than 16 million fans on the entire network has produced and released Yunnan food videos with an average of about 20 million views in a single issue. Such a food blogger lives in such remote mountains? ... "Dianxi Xiaoge", whose real name is Dong Meihua, is a "post-90s". After calculating, it has been 4 years since she returned to her hometown. "When I was young, I had a strong desire to go out.... Filling up my wish for the college entrance examination, I didn't choose a school in Yunnan. ... In the memory of Dianxi Xiaoge, before she went to primary school, the village had no running water. Every morning, her mother had to get up early to pick up a few large buckets of water from the spring at the foot of the mountain."

Created by Cunard (talk). Self-nominated at 07:49, 11 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • The phrase "真正在海外走红并成功变现的中国区网红只有排名前三位的" means "the only Chinese Internet celebrities who have truly become prominent overseas and successfully cashed in are the top three [in the rankings...] 变现 means to monetize (literally: turn into cash), not "successfully realized". But the article doesn't say what it means to "truly become prominent", nor what it means to "successfully cash in", so the hook seems vague. --Bowlhover (talk) 06:18, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on October 12Edit

Lesley Akyaa Opoku Ware

 
Ambassador to Armenia Lesley Akyaa Opoku Ware

Created by Agoni Abraham (talk), Anani A. George (talk), PamD (talk), Ipigott (talk), and Victuallers (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 21:23, 16 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Robert Bell (publisher)

  • ... that in 1776 Robert Bell was commissioned by Thomas Paine to print Common Sense, considered the most inciteful work of the American Revolution? — Sources: Kaye, 2006, p. 64;  Conway & Cobbett, 1892, Vol I, p. 60;  Aldridge, 1984, pp. 45, 108

Created by Gwillhickers (talk). Self-nominated at 17:29, 16 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Certainly a very interesting hook! I will be reviewing this DYK shortly. Do note that this is my first DKY review, so I may need someone more experienced to double check my work. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 01:01, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   I do not see any issues. As this is my first ever review, I am requesting that a second reviewer double check my work. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 01:13, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Marie Surcouf

Created by MumphingSquirrel (talk), Victuallers (talk), and Dhpage (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 21:17, 15 October 2021 (UTC).[]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y

Image eligibility:

  • Freely licensed:  N - Not clear. Commons page states "before 1934. Lets guess at 1915", which is probable but not sure it's enough for a DYK image.
  • Used in article:  N - Picture is not used within the article. Consider using a crop of the cited image instead of the painting?
  • Clear at 100px:  ?
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Zeromonk (talk) 10:43, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Micah Joseph Lebensohn

 
Micah Joseph Lebensohn

5x expanded by Ploni (talk). Self-nominated at 02:04, 14 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • @Ploni:   DYK Check shows the article has not 5x expanded yet in the past 10 days. Htanaungg (talk) 11:48, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • More specifically, Ploni, it was 1309 prose characters before your edits, and it's currently 4537, meaning another 2008 would be required for a five times expansion. Can you further expand the article? MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:44, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Thanks for reviewing! I may not have the chance to work on it for the next while, so feel free to reject the nomination if I haven't 5× expanded it within 10 days after the initial expansion. –Ploni (talk) 01:04, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Jean Kekedo, Rose Kekedo, Mary Kekedo

Jean Kekedo and Rose Kekedo created by Roundtheworld (talk), Mary Kekedo created by Dumelow (talk). Nominated by Roundtheworld at 16:57, 12 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Hi Roundtheworld, I was intrigued by Mary and managed to find a source that gave enough biographical information to create an article on her. I've bolded it here as a potential double hook, if you've no objection? If so, I'll have to rustle up a QPQ review for it, as I am not exempt. If you'd rather Jean run alone that's no problem either, just let me know and I'll nominate separately - Dumelow (talk) 19:36, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Hi Dumelow (talk). Delighted to have you on board. I only wrote Rose Kekedo two days ago, so I suppose it is a triple hook? Great that you found that info on Mary although when I follow the link to your main source I get asked for a password. You might like to add Mary to Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/210. Best. Roundtheworld (talk) 19:55, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Thanks Roundtheworld, will be great to run the triple. The source is a newspaper article (printing a book extract) hosted by the EBSCO Information Services, access can be gained by applying for a free account at Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library. I've completed a QPQ for my article at Template:Did you know nominations/The Young Woman of Amajac. Mandarax, excuse the ping but you know more about the DYK templates than anyone I know! Would you be able to sort out the credit templates for this nomination? I am not certain what needs adding to integrate the two additional articles? Many thanks in advance - Dumelow (talk) 05:57, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Awww, thanks. I've patched the other two articles into the nomination. Jean and Rose are credited to Roundtheworld and Mary is credited to Dumelow. Lemme know if any other credits should be included. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 07:30, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Thanks Mandarax, looks grand to me - Dumelow (talk) 07:46, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Thanks. Roundtheworld (talk) 08:13, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Willy von Beckerath

 
Brahms am Flügel, 1896
  • Reviewed: to come

Created by WQUlrich (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 16:51, 12 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Comment: I noticed that in the article, there is no explicit claim on the chronology of his Brahms portraits (besides the 1896 dating of the painting, which remains to be cited) to support this DYK. GeneralPoxter (talkcontribs) 14:28, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[]
    Perhaps you could just find a better hook wording. What strikes me is that the old Brahms was depicted by a rather young man. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:51, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Kaczyzm

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 09:13, 12 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Articles created/expanded on October 13Edit

Engine No. 1

  • ... that investment fund Engine No. 1 waged a successful proxy battle against ExxonMobil despite owning only 0.02% of the oil company's shares? Source: Engine No. 1, won a victory over one of America’s most iconic companies. Its acrimonious six-month proxy battle [...] Engine No. 1 had only a 0.02% stake... [39]
  • Reviewed: Not needed, fewer than 5 DYK credits.

Created by 15 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:29, 16 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Harriet Pattison

  • ... that landscape architect Harriet Pattison collaborated with her lover Louis Kahn on the design of Four Freedoms Park and the grounds of the Kimbell Art Museum?Source: "The book ends with the 2012 opening of the Four Freedoms Park on Roosevelt Island in New York, a long-delayed memorial to FDR on which Pattison and Kahn collaborated towards the end of his life" (The Guardian)Source: "She worked for a firm in the same building as Kahn’s firm and intermittently for Kahn, too (off in a closetlike space in case of a surprise visit from Esther); key among her projects was the site planning and early landscape design for the Kimbell Art Museum." (Architectural Record)
  • Reviewed: to come
  • Comment: moved from draft to mainspace on 13 October

Created by Thriley (talk). Self-nominated at 15:35, 16 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Steve Alm, State of Hawaii Organization of Police Officers

Created by Ezlev (talk). Self-nominated at 22:29, 13 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Nashua, Acton and Boston Railroad

  • ... that the Nashua, Acton and Boston Railroad was formed because its founder's yearly pass for a competing railroad was denied a renewal by that company's president? Source: "Acton Road Foreclosure" The Telegraph (Nashua, New Hampshire), January 13, 1905. "It is said that the main promoter started to work up the new road because General Stark declined to renew his annual pass." [40]
    • ALT1:... that the construction of the Nashua, Acton and Boston Railroad included the first ever use of dynamite in the state of New Hampshire? Source: "Acton Road Foreclosure" The Telegraph (Nashua, New Hampshire), January 13, 1905. "So he started out of Nashua, after getting free of the houses at Sandy pond and built the road for six miles past Dunstable depot as straight as a gun barrel. To do this they had to pierce a formidable ledge four miles out and in the work dynamite was used for the first time in New Hampshire." [41]
    • ALT2:... that the Nashua, Acton and Boston Railroad was also known as the "Red Line" because it was consistently unprofitable? Source: The Rail Lines of Southern New England, by Ronald Dale Karr, p.217 "Older residents refer to the line locally as the "Red Line," supposedly on account of its heavy operating losses."
  • Comment: This is my fourth DYK nom, so no QPQ is necessary.

5x expanded by Trainsandotherthings (talk). Self-nominated at 21:00, 13 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  •   Comment: The local nickname of the "Red Line" (due to accounting losses, aka red ink) might also make a worthy hook. I've added that to the article. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 22:58, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Good suggestion, I have added it as ALT2. Thanks for adding it to the article. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 23:25, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on October 14Edit

Eva Olsson (scientist)

 
Eva Olsson "more women nominated"
  • Comment: Women in STEM this month for Women in Red, and every month for Jess.
Reviewed: Women Who Fight Roundabout

Created by Jesswade88 (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 09:58, 17 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Cueva de las Manos

 
Hands, at Cueva de las Manos
  • ... that of the hundreds of hands stenciled at Cueva de las Manos as artwork (pictured), very few show a right hand? Source: "Cueva de las Manos . . . yielded counts of 329 left hands to 31 right ones" ([42])
    • ALT1:... that the artwork at Cueva de las Manos (pictured) was first created between 13,000 and 9,500 years ago? Source: "The Cueva de las Manos, Río Pinturas, contains an exceptional assemblage of cave art, executed between 13,000 and 9,500 years ago." ([43])

Improved to Good Article status by Tyrone Madera (talk). Self-nominated at 02:58, 16 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • The lead states: "The art in the cave dates to between 11,000 to 7,000 BC". That’s a 500 years discrepancy with ALT1. Schwede66 07:39, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Schwede66, I've fixed the discrepancy. Thanks for pointing that out! Tyrone Madera (talk) 23:07, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[]

New Haven and Northampton Company

  • ... that the New Haven and Northampton Company built a railroad along a former canal? Source: The Rail Lines of Southern New England, by Ronald Dale Karr, p. 70-71. "The Farmington Canal went bankrupt in 1836 and was reorganized as the New Haven & Northampton Company ... In 1846, Connecticut authorized the transformation of the canal company into a railroad."
    • ALT1:... that a branch line of the New Haven and Northampton Company was so difficult to build, the area was nicknamed "Satan's Kingdom"? Source: "New England Notes.–No.7". Paterson Daily Press. September 16, 1873. "So formidable were the engineering difficulties here, that the name of "Satan's Kingdom" was bestowed upon it, which name it bears to this day." [44]
  • Reviewed: [[]]
  • Comment: This is my 5th DYK nomination, so no QPQ is needed.

5x expanded by Trainsandotherthings (talk). Self-nominated at 20:27, 15 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Articles created/expanded on October 15Edit

Susan Bernal

  • ... that between 5 and 8% of global CO2 emissions are caused by concrete so Columbian-born Susan Bernal is developing new and novel cements?Source: ""
    • ALT1:... that ...?
  • Reviewed: Bagenal's Castle
  • Comment: a Green Women in STEM who was one of the Women in Red

Created by Jesswade88 (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 19:40, 17 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Lorenza Böttner

  • ... that Lorenza Böttner, a mouth and foot painter, had both of her arms amputated following an electrocution? Source: "At the age of eight, Ernst suffered an accident in which he was electrocuted by power lines he had climbed while chasing after a bird; this resulted in the amputation of both of his arms" [45]
    • ALT1:... that Lorenza Böttner, an artist who had both arms amputated, played the role of Petra at the 1992 Summer Paralympics? Source: "Back in Europe, she played the part of Petra, the mascot of the 1992 Paraolympics in Barcelona, who was drawn by the artist Javier Mariscal (born in 1950)." [46]
    • ALT2:... that the art of Lorenza Böttner depicts herself, as well as marginalized figures, such as prostitutes, those facing police violence, and lesbian and gay people? Source: "While the vast majority of Lorenza’s photos and oil paintings are self-portraits ... These paintings introduce a gallery of socially subaltern characters with whom the artist established an alliance through drawing: Amsterdam prostitutes, African Americans as the object of police violence in New York, lesbian sexuality under the shadow of the male gaze, and gay sexuality depicted as a tender bond." [47]

Created by Urve (talk). Self-nominated at 11:40, 17 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Robert Wertheim

Moved to mainspace by RightCowLeftCoast (talk). Self-nominated at 03:10, 16 October 2021 (UTC).[]

If possible please hold this article for Veterans Day.--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 03:19, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Guillaume Franc

  • ... that Guillaume Franc created melodies for metric psalms by the reformer John Calvin which are still are still in use in the 21st century? Source: [48]
  • Reviewed: to come

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 19:02, 15 October 2021 (UTC).[]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  N - ? “metric psalms” is rather technical language. And not clear that Calvin wrote the lyrics…? Maybe “melodies adapted to the psalms of John Calvin’s Church of Geneva,” similar to what is used in the article?
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Solid new article, good to go with a minor tweak of the hook, but no Qpq listed Montanabw(talk) 18:54, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Thank you for looking into it. I'm sorry, I nominated in a bit of a rush for fear to be late. The first translator was LouisAlain who was sadly banned afterwards. He says he isn't interested in credits, and I believe him. How is this:
ALT1: ... that melodies by Guillaume Franc to French psalms published in Geneva in 1542 are still in use in the 21st century?
I reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Climate change in Malaysia. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:20, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[]
I like that better, but perhaps a wee bit of grammatical tweaking. How about something like, “Psalms in French, set to music by Guillaume Franc and published in Geneva in 1542 are still in use in the 21st century?” Maybe that’s a bit of a run-on sentence, but the psalms aren’t themselves French, just the translation…Montanabw(talk) 07:09, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Thank you for the offer but that would not be topic of the article. About the French psalms by Calvin, I know nothing. Franc composed melodies for them, and these melodies are in use with hymns in German, some with modern texts. How is this:
ALT1a: ... that melodies by Guillaume Franc, composed to French psalms published in Geneva in 1542, are still in use in the 21st century?
It would be easy to link to the famous Genevan Psalter, but unfortunately that was published later, and it's less clear how many melodies there were still by Franc. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:55, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Reichsoberhandelsgericht

  • ... that for more than six decades no federal supreme court existed in the German territories until the Reichsoberhandelsgericht was formed in 1879? Source: With the disintegration of the Holy Roman Empire in 1806 the judicial activities of the two German supreme courts – the Reichskammergericht in Wetzlar and the Aulic Council (the Reichshofrat) in Vienna – also came to an end. For more than six decades no federal supreme court existed in the German territories until the Reichskammergericht was formed in 1869. Fleckner, Andreas M. (2009). "Reichsoberhandelsgericht (mit Reichsgericht)". Handwörterbuch des Europäischen Privatrechts (in German). Archived from the original on 2 March 2021. Retrieved 10 October 2020.

Created by WatkynBassett (talk). Self-nominated at 11:28, 15 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Articles created/expanded on October 16Edit

Bagenal's Castle

  • ... that Bagenal's Castle was originally thought to destroyed, but was then rediscovered in 1996 in the premises of a bakery? Source: [49]

Created by Jurtaa (talk). Self-nominated at 19:17, 17 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  •   The text is too similar to the sources. Whole sentences are taken from here with no (or only trivial) changes. Wikipedia articles have to be "in your own words". You cannot take a sentence and use it if someone else wrote it. Neither can you change it a bit. It needs rewording completely. Worth the effort, I think. Victuallers (talk) 22:02, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[]

KHXS

5x expanded by Sammi Brie (talk). Self-nominated at 21:10, 16 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Ed Beauvais

Created by Ktin (talk). Self-nominated at 19:53, 16 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Earl Old Person

 
Earl Old Person

Created/expanded by Montanabw (talk). Self-nominated at 18:37, 16 October 2021 (UTC).[]


Umberto Lenzi filmography

Created by Grapple X (talk). Self-nominated at 17:10, 16 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Blackstarkids

  • ... that after praising them on Instagram, The 1975's Matty Healy appeared on the Blackstarkids track "Friendship"? Source: One day, the former’s Matty Healy reached out via Instagram: “We literally felt like we were floating on clouds when he said he liked our band,”NME Dirty Hit labelmates Beabadoobee and The 1975's Matty Healy make cute cameos on track five, 'Friendship" Coupdemain Magazine
    • ALT1:... that actor Frankie Muniz praised the Blackstarkids on Twitter for their track "Frankie Muniz"? Source: The TV-referencing second single “FRANKIE MUNIZ,” which got the attention of the actor himself who praised the single on Twitter,Volatile Weekly
    • ALT2:... that the Blackstarkids create a visual concept for their work before any music or lyrics have been made? Source:BLACKSTARKIDS have always had an unusual way of working: each project starts with a “visual concept” before any beats have been produced, or any lyrics have even been penned.NME

Created by Yorkshiresky (talk). Self-nominated at 16:13, 16 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Christiaan Huygens

 
One of the first pendulum clocks designed by Christiaan Huygens alongside his treatise Horologium Oscillatorium (1673)
  • ... that the first pendulum clock was invented in 1657 by Christiaan Huygens? Source: In 1657, inspired by earlier research into pendulums as regulating mechanisms, Christiaan Huygens invented the pendulum clock, which was a breakthrough in timekeeping and became the most accurate timekeeper for the next 275 years until the 1930s. Marrison, W. (1948). "The Evolution of the Quartz Crystal Clock". Bell System Technical Journal. 27 (3): 510–588. doi:10.1002/j.1538-7305.1948.tb01343.x.

Improved to Good Article status by Guillermind81 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:24, 16 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Starting this review shortly. Ktin (talk) 20:06, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[]
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.

QPQ:  ?
Overall:   Article meets eligibility criteria. Was recently promoted to GA. I will lean heavily on the due-diligence done during the GA promotion process. Taking the hook citation from the reference. The image is used in the article and looks reasonable. I find the hook interesting, though it is a matter of personal preference. I do not see a QPQ. Please share that once done. Ktin (talk) 20:09, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Ktin, as best I can determine, this is the first DYK by this nominator. As such, they are not required to supply a QPQ. Also, with all due respect, DYK reviewers should never rely on the GA review for anything here at DYK: it is your responsibility to do all of the usual checks, from neutrality to the inline citations in each paragraph to copyvio/close paraphrasing/plagiarism checks. We have found issues with some past GAs that have required fixing at DYK (and more than one GA has been revoked because of DYK scrutiny). Thank you for not leaning at all on this one or in future reviews. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:23, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Sounds good @BlueMoonset:. @Guillermind81: -- firstly, amazing work on the article. I have added a few [citation needed] tags across the article. Should be easy to fix. Most of them might just need addition of a reference that has already been used elsewhere in the article, I suspect. Found that the works section was lacking in sources. Can you have a look at that as well? Ktin (talk) 04:16, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Johannes Schröder

  • Reviewed: to come
  • Comment: no time, sorry

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 11:47, 16 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Bourbaki Panorama

 
Detail from the Bourbaki Panorama showing French soldiers piling arms
  • ... that the 115 metre (377 foot) -long Bourbaki Panorama (extract pictured) depicts the internment of 88,000 French soldiers in neutral Switzerland at the end of the Franco-Prussian War? "980x11,500cm ... this panorama illustrates and event that took place at the end of the Franco-Prussian War when General Bourbaki's eastern artm ... fled to Switzerland ... documents record that 88,000 men marched into Switzerland" from: Comment, Bernard (2002). The Panorama. Reaktion Books. p. 214. ISBN 978-1-86189-123-5.

Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 08:23, 16 October 2021 (UTC).[]

 
Figures and background painting from the Panorama
The second image should be used if ALT1 is chosen but either (or any other from the article) could be used for the others - Dumelow (talk)


Articles created/expanded on October 17Edit

Florissantia (plant)

 
Fossil Florissantia quilchenensis flower
  • ... that Florissantia (pictured) flowers were possibly pollinated by bats? Source: "Manchester 1992, paleoecology section"
    • ALT1:... that Florissantia (pictured) flowers have been identifed as hydrangeas or viburnums? Source: "Manchester 1992 systematics for F. ashwillii and F. quilchenensis

5x expanded by Kevmin (talk). Self-nominated at 00:51, 18 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Brotherhood of Man (The Drew Carey Show)

Moved to mainspace by JuneGloom07 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:52, 17 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Rise Bar

  • ... that more than 400 people living near Rise Bar supported a motion to keep it open later? Source: "More than 400 neighborhood residents have written letters endorsing the proposed 4 a.m. closing time." ([53])
    • ALT1:... that Rise Bar's management spent more than $110,000 soundproofing the space, which holds just 74 patrons? Source: "Before Rise opened last November, the venue's landlord spent around $90,000 on soundproofing throughout the building, Blair said. Additionally, he spent approximately $20,000 hiring a sound engineer to install paneling and conduct sound checks." ([54])

Moved to mainspace by Armadillopteryx (talk). Self-nominated at 22:46, 17 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Emil Utitz

Moved to mainspace by Kusma (talk). Self-nominated at 21:10, 17 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Gerd Ruge

 
German journalist Gerd Ruge

5x expanded by Ktin (talk), Grimes2 (talk), and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Ktin (talk) at 16:39, 17 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Comment (not review): I suggest a grammar tweak ALT0a:... that German reporter Gerd Ruge formed a lasting friendship with author Boris Pasternak and named his son Boris after him?
  • rephrased alt0 - this is NOT a review Victuallers (talk) 22:18, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Myrtle Edwards (politician)

Created by SounderBruce (talk) and WomenProj (talk). Nominated by SounderBruce (talk) at 03:38, 17 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • I will start the review here shortly. DYK Check says that this article is a stub currently, which might mean the article has to be expanded and / or the stub tag removed from the article. Please can you have that done while I complete the review. Ktin (talk) 01:14, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[